Recent comments in /f/massachusetts

marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3wqs5b wrote

Right. So that’s at least 90% of MA residents who would qualify.

Honestly I’d love to go to community college and pick up some random degrees and skills just for fun. I’m a nerd who loves school, and that’s probably exactly how I’d spend my time if I had unlimited funds. But I already have a PhD and a high-skill job, so that funding would be kind of wasted on me.

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GreatAndPowerfulNixy t1_j3wpekb wrote

u/superbbuffalo is asserting that all residents should qualify for this assistance. Per the article, the aim is to train those over 25 without college degrees-- generally recognized as a class of lower-income individuals. By applying a blind eye to qualifications, it ignores the financial hurdles that lower-income individuals face when applying for a college education.

Basically, this is the same assertion as "all residents should get food stamps" while ignoring why SNAP exists exclusively for lower-income families.

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marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3wnxp6 wrote

Do community colleges have many admissions requirements? I thought not? This program is for community college, not 4-year state colleges.

To clarify, I think free state college for all residents would be great. But if for whatever reason that's not politically or economically feasible, then I think more limited strategic programs are better than doing nothing.

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Bobbydadude01 t1_j3wkcm2 wrote

>Taxes pay for fire fighters even if your house doesn't burn do

But they will be their if I need them

>Single people pay for schools their non-existent children won't use.

And if I have children they can go to them.

>. The more people that get an education, the better off we all are.

Limited financial aid makes it hard for many to go to schools and increases the debt many will have to go into. It increases costs, so many in the middle class either need to go into debt or just not go to school.

Increasing cost of education....bad

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3720-To-One t1_j3wjsm1 wrote

You realize that just because all residents would qualify for free state college, doesn’t mean every resident would meet admissions requirements.

Your argument still boils down to ability to pay should decide who goes to college and who doesn’t.

I don’t understand why whenever there are conversations of free college, every acts like that would admit every single person who applies.

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marmosetohmarmoset t1_j3wixal wrote

But if all residents qualify then the amount all residents pay will also be higher. If there’s limited funding, it makes some sense to limit the number of people in the program to a strategic group where it would have the most impact. In this case they propose limiting it to people over the age of 25 who don’t already have a degree. It’s a lot more difficult to go back to school when you’re older- this could help lower that hurdle.

This is the kind of program, like many others, where not everyone directly benefits, but the whole state may indirectly benefits. There’s a critical shortage of medium-skilled technical workers in the state. Increasing the supply of people who are qualified to do these jobs could improve the state’s overall economy, leaving more funding for other programs.

Kind of odd how so many comments in this thread are focused on the program not being open to every single resident. This is very typical of how the government works. For example, everyone helps pay for SNAP benefits, but not everyone gets SNAP benefits- just the people who need it.

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