The Hudson River?

New Amsterdam was a Dutch settlement, New England was settled by England is the real reason though.

MA coding is ridiculous and meant to make you pay more in the name of safety. None of it exists in most states.

So ya you gotta pay it if you want a dishwasher

But they do suck

Never forget that the original western border for Mass. was supposed to be the Pacific ocean

this is a way more accurate answer than the "because they suck" that i expected for a top comment.

Don't forget the smell!

New York smells like cow.

Because... fuck New York... that's is why

Us New English are the true Yankees 😤

Are those the same "industry leaders" that continually gut operations and make the customer experience worse every year while jacking prices through the roof?

Oh wait, those are the "operational improvements" and price of a "world class experience" that you're paid to shill. You don't have to show your hand so hard. Or do you actually believe them?

Those towns will be fine without the "industry leaders" and you. Not that you've ever been to any of them by your own admission.

He was actually the one who decided to remove the bottom of the basket pretty soon after he invented the game. The basket was still too small for the ball to small through though, so they’d use a stick to push it out the top every time.

'kay, good luck with that. Guess what I've heard from industry leaders is meaningless and all. Great if you know resourceful people, but your thinking is still narrow and unsustainable. No job is guaranteed and whatever toilet your folks are cleaning now will pay less and less as the ski money dries up.

Do you really think the $2billion colorado lost in ski revenue last year hasn't affected anyone? I guess they're all cleaning my weed for big bucks now? lol...yes, I'm sure someone who grooms snow for a living has many, many lucrative career options.

The current NE states shielded NY from whatever, so NE states are NE states and no other state gets to share that title. ;-)

Fuck the Yankees!

Istanbul. Not Constantinople. No it’s Istanbul not Constantinople

I'm not sorry, you're just an idiot

Yes, it was before statehood. You had the New England Colony, Middle Colony, and Southern Colony. The middle colonies included NY because New York was Dutch and below the New England Colonies. Geography played a part in the boundaries. Upstate NY wasn't really part of the equation as the settlements began along the coast.

If you compare what the big resort towns rely on from the mountain twenty years ago to what they rely on now, you'd find everything you claim to be patently false. Every single town has diversified well in advance of the resorts slowly becoming less of a thing.

Lets also address that those jobs were never guaranteed and the resorts outsource as many of them as they can to seasonal foreign workers that don't "need" them. Those jobs are rapidly becoming obsolete for the towns and the people to survive. And towns that solely exist due to the mountains will move on like many others have.

Those locals will be fine, their resume is longer than you can ever imagine.

I don't work for Vail, or even ski. I've done some marketing as a contractor. As shitty as the jobs may be, until there are better options, people rely on those wages. Knowing we need better alternatives doesn't mean we can wrench away what people have now.

Anyway, fuck every corporate ski slope owner if...I care about saving the land and the using it wisely to help the people who love and need it. I'm not sure how anyone got supporting Vail out of supporting their workers.

Meh. Western massholes do t count. Different breed.

To Constantinople?

You’re thinking of Edison.

In my perspective it's a bit of a divide. There are people like me who buy a <500$ pass, sleep in their car, eat pb&j, and only really pay for gas to ski 30+ days a year.

And then there are people spending my yearly total for their family to ski two days.

There really isn't much in between.

A couple huge lakes, some mountains, and the Hudson. The divide between MA/VT and NY are natural.

Because it was called New Netherland and it's capital was called New Amsterdam which was on the southern tip of Manhattan Island. The settlement was originally started by the Dutch West India Company to profit from the fur trade.

"Please be grateful for the minimum wage overworked slave labor jobs we give you." You sound like you work for Vail Resorts.

What's the average tenure of a resort employee? Where are the majority of seasonal workers from again?

Given the locals who traditionally have worked the resort jobs have been priced out from ever living anywhere near the resorts and more each day are moving on to greener pastures, I'm not sure you understand who needs who.