So? The point is we should have had both

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…most of them didn’t have time and a half pay on Sundays to begin with. That’s a pretty MA specific thing.

I am all for getting rid of any state laws based on religious based control.

In reality, where retail is these days, it would just mean higher prices. It is easy to put this in a us vs. them rant, but it is really us vs. us.

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If only there was working class solidarity

M.I.T recently did a study that showed the basic living wage is higher in MA than $15. It is $17.22 in Hampden County and then just moves higher as you go towards Boston.

We need to get serious about addressing it. Time to tie it to inflation like CT did.

The other point here is what was possible at the time. You have to remember that while we are a pretty progressive state overall we still elected Charlie Baker twice and would have done so again had he run. There is a level of “too progressive” at which point the average MA voter does get annoyed. The bargain that was struck was what could pass, and all in all it was a good bargain and one of the highest minimum wage increases in the country.

At the end of the day the politicians have to account for the will of the voters, and in MA we have a pretty good progressive base. But there are limits. This was a good deal, I’ll take the W.

Well okay first of all that statement is just false. The minimum wage went up in like 2014 or so. Inflation this year has been pretty bad at around 8% but inflation from 2014 has NOT been 80%. $15 now is just factually more than $8 in 2014 when you adjust for inflation. You can look at the CPI statistics to clearly see this.

But it’s a separate issue because the issue of “what should the minimum wage be” is separate from “should you get paid more on Sundays just because it’s Sunday.” It makes perfect sense to me to say that the minimum wage should be higher in order to account for inflation. It makes NO sense to me to say that minimum wage should be higher on Sundays and not other days in order to account for inflation. My point here is that Sundays are not special, and the inflation rate does not make Sundays any more or less special. It is simply a separate issue.

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So minimum wage was $8.10 an hour. Time and a half on Sundays was $12.15 an hour. The minimum wage is now $15. That was the bargain — it goes up for everyone, by a lot (almost 100%!), and in exchange we don’t do time and a half. Like I said elsewhere, it totally makes sense to peg the minimum wage increase to inflation like they do in Washington state.

it’s been getting phased out as minimum wage went up

But we all know that minimum wage is going to be stuck at 15 for years.

How is that a separate issue? No one is any better off at 15 than they were at 8 many years ago. Inflation has been crazy.

I think this is it. People won’t admit that they honestly just don’t care about workers.

I've called everyday for weeks and it puts me on hold for an hour and then hangs up, every single time.

But the minimum wage increase is not enough to compensate for what people were making on Sundays. Especially when you factor in inflation.

Tysm!

Right? Haha!!

Let’s literally get down to brass tax here folks…yours is the true answer.

These people are completely deluded beating themselves and others into the ground in the name of toxic individualism and bootstrap brainwash. Lol at fighting against more worker rights, how dumb and captive can you be. Incredible and they call themselves progressive

Here’s your pennies increase lil slave! Be grateful! 🥴

Meanwhile the wealth hoarding and disparity is at all time highs and basic data backs that up

But no, we still have to live with these dumb assholes holding everyone back because they were taught that you’re supposed to suffer like a bitch for the big man because “maybe I’ll be him one day!!!!1”

Absolute fuckin idiots lol

Then they turn around and wonder why they can’t buy a house etc. newsflash, the wealthy rape you and holding down min wage pay like a stupid fuck contributes to that even if you make more than that

Ok hear me out. What if, instead of doing a weird time and a half thing on Sundays they simply raised the minimum wage on every day of the week to a level well above what time and a half was. Oh wait, that’s literally exactly what they did.

God, these people have the logical faculties of republicans. Arguing with them is like arguing with a particularly silly brick wall.

Exactly right; and the minimum wage increase makes it easier to not be stuck working a Sunday for financial reasons.

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