Last week, so many people in this sub were saying "There's still plenty of time for snow to come and accumulate."

Yeah, it might snow, but it will warm up a few days afterwards, or we'll get precipitation in the form of rain. No lakes / ponds are freezing over; skiing, snowshoeing, dogsledding--never even had a season.

what do you mean?

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What’s up with Leominster?

Wyoming buys the fewest sex toys. I bet there’s a cause and effect situation in there somewhere.

Massively or Mass Savely?

Are you sure that heat pumps are going to be cost effective for you ? If you don’t have solar your probably better off with your current heating system with the current sky high electric rates . You also get to avoid to pay 48k install them .

Waiting and seeing

Get a few more quotations. We have a relatively straightforward vacation house in Western Ma, and we were quoted anywhere from $8-22k for a 2 to 4 split on a ~1200sf house. This was 10-18k btu. The latter of which is absurdly overkill.

But I think in Berkshire county these things might actually be a little more expensive, because there are fewer people who do them out this way.

I shoveled it would to heavy to wait and no guarantee that it’s going up melt enough on Thursday.

Perhaps you should try taking out your prostate massager before typing.

Like a mannnnn!

OP, we had a 2-zone system put in ~5 years ago. 2x mini-splits downstairs and a ducted system upstairs, run from the same compressor outside. Sufficient to cool/heat a 1,900 sqft house.

Total cost (again, 5years ago) was $16k.

I know prices have gone up since then, but $48k is fucking bananas.

I live in Massachusetts and have worked in the utility industry for 40 years. Here's some advice that worked for me. First thing I would recommend is to replace ever light outlet with a LED lamp or system. I replaced my 20 year old oil furnace with a modern system for $9,500 and so far oil has cost me less than $1,500 this season. Also have your present system cleaned and inspected. Finally, as the cost of electricity is far above the cost of oil I would stop using the heat pump as much as possible. I cook and dry my clothing with gas and I do much baking in the winter. MassSave should provide you with a free energy audit that will show you where your home is consuming energy and what steps you may take to make improvements and the cost of these recommendations. This will include the cost of insulation, replacing your oil heating system with a newer style unit, window replacement, etc. They have very good energy auditors. Call them again and ask for an energy audit. MassSave also has a list of contractors and well as some financial aid.

If it is possible to move to a new community in Massachusetts I would also recommend looking at the 42 communities that have their own municipal electric companies. The one that serves my area has never exceeded $0.1875/kWh (minus the $5.00 customer charge) that's sorta still expensive but much cheaper than National Greed or Eversore. (Imo, another reason why this country should not allow foreign companies to own critical resources.) I live in a large five bedroom, three bathroom house built in 1919 and I've done all of the above and my electric bill has never exceeded $50.00/month but I do live alone and keep my house at 64 degrees with electronic thermostats and because my home is large it is broken up into four independently controlled heating zones. I also keep all of the many doors in the house closed. My hot water is off of the tankless boiler so it is heated with oil. If you are using any form of electric heating shut that off immediately and move heat from one area to this area.

Massachusetts is the only New England State that is divided into three separate transmission areas because it is at the cross road between New York and southern New England energy grids. Check out ISO.NE's web page to review current real time energy prices and transmission costs and restraints. It's very interesting. Finally, one of the real reasons why electricity is so expensive in Massachusetts is partly do to the transmission system upgrades currently underway and the lavish ROI the FERC gave the transmission owners to urge them to do so. (This was what was behind the merger of NorthEast Utilities and Boston Edison; NU had the need and BE had the financial resources.)

Good luck, and I hope that you find this useful.

"Should I try to get off?"

No, just edge until then.

No basement for us. I'm not sure why that's an issue. None of the equipment gets hidden or stored in a basement like a furnace/boiler system. I have an 8 head unit system for 3,900 s/f, and it was $28k in 2018.

Damn! My quote was 8.5k for 48000 BTU. 2200 sq ft house. Just equipments, not install labor

Wayyyy to much

Shoveled first thing this morning for the mail carrier, primarily. 5-7:30 pm the whole frontage and driveway and neighbor’s steps.

May hit up the front porch steps tomorrow morning for the mail carrier.

That’s cus we progressive here 🍆

I shoveled tonight just because I'm horrified of it freezing on the sidewalk and an early morning person going for a walk falling and taking me for everything i own.

It could be a ducted ductless, as they are often called

I don't want to say "that explains a lot", but...

4 years ago, we paid $16k for 2 outdoor units (18k BTU and 24k BTU). 1 wall mounted unit and 2 ceiling casettes inside a 3000 square foot house. We also paid another $11k for all new electric service run from the pole to the house (we had 100 amp service and upgraded to 200 amp), replaced 2 old school fuse boxes with breaker boxes, and ran new power out to the outdoor units. Your quote is insanely high.

Had good accumulation shoveled feel accomplished