It’s funny because I actually agree with you more but was presenting a legitimate argument that allows for differing viewpoints.

Thank you for replying and I am sorry for the negativity in this thread. As a moderator elsewhere I know it is not an easy job. I, of course, respect your decision. I would however like to point out that not all information is freely available even in 2023. I have been a librarian for over 35 years and the monetazation of information behind paywalls is stronger than ever and something we librarians struggle with every single day. In fact, the BBC news division (which you mention) is actually considering paywalling BBC news in the US. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021/06/10/bbc-broadly-favours-faster-introduction-of-paywalls/

Again, I respect your decision and will no longer cite to sources such as the New York Times or Boston Globe. I do hope that people use the curated free e-resources those provided by BPL and other libraries to broaden their understanding of the world by being exposed to wider viewpoints beyond Google's front page.

Unfortunately, such a comment made in complete seriousness by someone wouldn’t be surprising these days.

Only Mercy hospital is for-profit in MA

Maybe these individuals aren’t much of a danger to the public and should not be incarcerated at all if something like organ or bone marrow donation would make them eligible for early release. The problem is that they probably shouldn’t even be in the prison in the first place. This bill just piles more incentives on the state to incarcerate people for minor crimes. It’s not “good for them” at all.

I work in oncology and I whole-heartedly second the notion of "fuck DaVita"

This Subreddit has nearly a quarter of a million (250,000) members. There are only 3 active moderators. Trust me when I say, no one could micromanage this Subreddit even if they were inspired to do so, which no one here is.

Lmao. Thanks for the laugh. It's good to see people with some humor around here.

So we are harvesting humans for reduced incarceration. This doesn't feel ethical.

I’m writing to the sponsors of this proposed bill. It’s fucking horseshit. I can’t believe we elected people like this. We need to do better. Coercing prisoners to give up a fucking organ is abuse

Imagine you're identified as having a rare kind of bone marrow. Now imagine that a shady hospital communicates this to a shady detective and a shady DA on their take.

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Carlos Gonzalez (D) - 10th Hampden Judith Garcia (D) - 11th Suffolk

Along with 3 cosponsors

https://malegislature.gov/Bills/193/HD3822

Why are you now banned? I am glad you asked. Because you were attempting to paint a fictional picture as reality. You were wrongfully making untrue statements. And when I warned you to please knock it off, you persisted.

Since you were so determined to set an example, I guess you have achieved that goal by being a fine example of transparency. Most moderators would have dealt with you privately in secret and no one would be the wiser. You'd simply vanish into obscurity. I suppose that method of moderation has its advantages. You certainly do not have to deal with things like this publicly, drawn out, and it may be less drama. But I do value some level of transparency, so I rather call you out for all to see.

Bye-bye now.

The conversation about mental health surrounding this story would be so less frustrating if society applied it consistently.

Look at the tone around the stories of the black woman in Brockton and the homeless white woman who nearly killed her kid by abandonment. The media and society took a tone of condemnation. But this triple-murderer gets the kid gloves, and we all know why.

Reminds me of that Patrice O'Neal bit about Natalee Holloway.

I don’t see this as unethical at all. They are not forcing individuals to do anything. It’s their choice. And hell if they want to save a life and get out of jail early, good for them

Time to get our pitchforks out. This is insane!

It is certainly persuasive but how is it coercive and unconscionable? If you accept these terms, you, you are granted a privilege. You earn that privilege upon a service that is is rendered upon your death: full stop.

You no longer have need of those organs. You will now give potential life and happiness to a complete stranger. You have moved from a very dark place to a place of altruism.

I will gladly donate my organs when I am gone. I’m sure that there are many people in prison who probably would have been easily persuaded to do so without receiving anything more than a sense of retribution. Now they could potentially see some benefit from their act of kindness.

If you want something to rail about, There are plenty of things to choose from in our “Justice system.” Private prisons, solitary confinement, bail, the war on drugs and prison labor all come readily to mind, but organ donation? Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see it.

I love Nantucket worked there for couple yrs framing houses

Trolling? What are you talking about?

This same thread.

But this isn’t even what I am referring to. Why are you threatening me with a ban?

Whereas I agree that the example you've given would be frustrating, I feel like you're looking to micromanage conversations.

I'm an adult, and if I make a claim like you said, and someone insists on my giving proof when I cannot, I make the adult decision to discontinue the discussion.

If the information is not easily accessible and is exclusive, it's not welcome here. The year is 2023 and whatever The Boston Globe is reporting can be found from The BCC, NPR, and alike. The old days of 1 news source having the sole exclusive and everyone else not reporting on something to "respect" that exclusivity, ended nearly a century ago. Times have changed, and this is one of those for the better.

I know it sounds unethical, however it's the prisoners choice to donate. I highly doubt that 1 year off your sentence will entice inmates to be in a hurry to give up a Kidney or the like.

Yes this is an important clarification

Not to dismiss everyone's opinions on what a bad idea this bill is, but it is going precisely nowhere. There are like 6000 bills filed every year in the Massachusetts General Court. There are bound to be some bad ideas that get thrown in.

It's going to have a hearing, and then it will either get sent to study or, given how much of an actual bad idea this is, it will get a "recommend do not pass" by the committee.

If you want to participate beyond posting on Reddit about it, sign up for an account on malegislature.gov and track the bill. When a hearing is scheduled, send testimony to the committee chairs with your opinions. In-person testimony would be better, but I recognize that this is not feasible for most people.