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RunNPRun0316 t1_j6ckwpt wrote

Reply to comment by relliott22 in yes this is a real bill that has been introduced by Ministry_of__Truth

My mistake. You are absolutely correct. That does make this a pretty thorny ethical debate on par with “The Trolley Problem.”

Still, it’s not “coercive”nor is it necessarily “unethical.” Coercion requires a threat. Telling someone that they will not be giving a specific privilege if they do not provide a specific service is not a threat; it is withholding an incentive that would otherwise not be available.

As long as it is 100% the decision of the incarcerated individual whether or not to provide the service, I don’t see the ethical problems. Of course, the program would have to be administered by some outside party with ethical standards.

I would love to see an actual ethicist way in on this subject.

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-Horatio_Alger_Jr- t1_j6cacnn wrote

Reply to comment by NabNausicaan in Holyoke mall shooting by runninginsquare_s

>The great majority of guns used for homicide in Massachusetts come from out of state, like 90%. So yes, gun laws work.

Which is highly illegal. You can not purchase or transport a handgun across state lines. It has to go through a valid FFL. This is illegal at a federal level.

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BenpaiNoticedYou t1_j6c0m5x wrote

Reply to Holyoke mall shooting by runninginsquare_s

I was there with my friends when it happened. We traveled from CT for my friend's birthday at the Round One. My GF and I split from the group to check out Stateline Games. The escalator wasn't working so we had to go through JC Penney.

We were just about to exit the second floor when we heard two loud bangs. After about a second or two people started running panicked in our direction so we got outside and met back up with our group.

Crazy. Never coming back to Holyoke Mall again after this

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Justinontheinternet t1_j6bysbr wrote

Reply to comment by NabNausicaan in Holyoke mall shooting by runninginsquare_s

Seems like someone got shot and killed with a gun, according to the article at least. If the laws prevented these deaths, like we’re told they will. Would this have still happened? 🤔

Because we’re trading a constitutional amendment for the promise that gun laws will prevent tragedies such as these. We’ve given up much of our 2a rights but they haven’t held up their end of the bargain and stopped these tragedies from happening. Which means these laws don’t work or politicians are lying.(insert shocked face here)

Hell I expect someone to get on tv within the next 48 hours and talk about creating more gun laws because of this. Despite their current gun laws not working hence here we are commenting on an article about another mall shooting.

Even the Holyoke mall doesn’t allow weapons but what they are doing in reality is disarming law abiding people while allow this shooter easy and helpless targets many of which are our friends, family and neighbors.

“No Weapons Allowed The possession of any weapon, other than by law enforcement personnel, is prohibited.”

http://www.holyokemall.com/uploads/pdf/holyoke_behavior_code.pdf

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