Agreed

You can’t call in sick and go to a protest anywhere. I could have unlimited sick time, you’d get in trouble being at a protest out sick in most jobs…

Nah it’s not about the points it’s about getting wrecked lmao

You misunderstand 25 million is a much smaller number than 350 million. The sample size is not the same Which is why the population can’t be compared.

If your sentiment about Australia were true , I wouldn’t have any examples to cite, I just gave you multiple examples. Which immediately disproves your theory that a nationwide gun ban would eliminate gun violence as again. Again, I just provided examples not sure what more is needed. Oh yeah the gun laws you justify have enabled this tragedy to happen. Other more free states this is what happens when a shooter enters the mall. https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2022/07/18/elisjsha-dicken-identified-as-man-who-killed-greenwood-park-mall-suspsect/65375869007/

Different law different outcomes. Seems like you prefer the shootings in which innocents are robbed of their 2a and thus killed because of it.

Would you trade away your 1st amendment so people didn’t get hurt by words anymore? Because that’s what you’re doing with your 2nd amendment. You’re likely a gun owner for the need for protection. If the government was doing a good job protecting you already (ala the laws you’re trying to justify) you wouldn’t need a gun nor would we be having this conversation as this shooting would not have happened according to your logic.

Also you have a gun in your house how is that everyone in your house isn’t dead? Especially if guns are so dangerous that you actively choose to own them?

You gotta show me these olympic level mental gymnastics I’m impressed.

For anyone looking at this pic and commenting on the tree growth, go walk through Minuteman NHP in Concord, then go drive around the surrounding residential areas. Minuteman NHP was clearcut to make it look like it was in 1775. Before that park was built, there were residential neighborhoods with trees growing between the houses. The rest of suburban MA still has those trees and they keep growing.

There is more total tree biomass in Massachusetts now than 50 years ago.

Or working a quality enough job that we have sick time ☺️

Once you go further West, yes, it does become more remote. The same is true if you go North and North, West. There are a few exceptions, such as Greenfield and Pittsfield, to name a few. But once you exit past Amherst or Westfield, depending on which way you're going (further north or further west), it's mostly country towns and woods.

Not true.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/nrs/pubs/ru/ru_fs161.pdf

If you actually look at the studies, the total biomass of trees in MA is increasing and the removal of live trees is going down.

I've lived in this state long enough to have seen many areas go from clearcut farmland to more wooded. Additionally, tree growth is many suburban neighborhoods is substantial.

Wow. While I'm thrilled that you've mastered testicular hygiene, it's a really weird thing to flex on the internet 😆 Do you often talk about your balls with strangers?

Also, as is extremely obvious with the current SCOTUS, they're not exactly an infallible body of infinite wisdom and perfect rulings. So your argument from authority can fuck right off.

I'm aware of cases wherein a lawfully carrying person has stopped a shooter. Big deal. Doesn't mean that regulations such as requiring mental health screening and continuing education/qualification tests are unreasonable. It seems a lot of these shooters have purchased their guns legally, so it seems like a mental health/competency screening program would stop a lot of the shootings without a need for what amounts to vigilante justice.

Notice how I said "a lot of" shootings, and not "all shootings." I include this bit only because I know you're already mentally typing out "BuT iF yOu MaKe GuNs iLLeGaL OnLy CriMiNaLs WiLL gEt ThEm!!!!11!1" Again, I'm aware of this problem. Shootings exist in countries that have much stricter gun laws than the US - but on a scale of one every few years rather than one every day in the US. Ergo, gun regulation prevents most but not all shootings.

I don't know about you, but I'm getting really tired of seeing our flags flying at half mast.

In the first paragraph you said we can't compare the USA to Australia, then you went on to compare them in the following paragraphs.

The gun homicide rate per 100,000 residents (that's adjusted for the population difference) is over ten times greater in the United States. Looking at raw numbers, we have 330 million people and 38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were by suicide. Australia has 26 million people, and had 229 gun deaths in 2019. Their gun deaths have continued to drop ever since the laws changed.

I think reform would be a good start.

Stuff like this has been going on nationwide for decades. Often without a police camera either available or conveniently disabled. With the raise of smartphones and more departments requiring body cameras, the truth of these matters has come to light more frequently.

But these things, unfortunately, happen for a reason. Those reasons are exactly what needs to change, so stuff like this no longer happens.

Oh man, if only police brutality wasn’t a nationwide systemic problem…

But by your rationale, since George Floyd’s killer was convicted, Tyre Nichols should still be alive.

People aren’t just protesting tyre Nichols’ murder.

They are protesting police brutality and demanding system-wide changes.

This isn’t hard unless you’re being willfully obtuse, which in my experience, is a favorite pastime of conservatives on Reddit.

I’m touching sand rn #beachlife does anything move around in your brain and get you thinking hmm maybe what the government told me isn’t true? Which is why we’re discussing this in a post about a shooting that happened in mass, despite some of the toughest gun laws in America?

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Oh, no I lost some Internet points. The MAGA cult member really showed me.

It’s beautiful out there for sure but to me it’s all basically Vermont once you pass Springfield lol

There have been multiple. It's not the best mall these days.

The folks of Central Mass really do get ignored, eh? 😂

I dont get this? The cops were fired. They all were also arrested on murder charges. Their day in court is coming. What else do you want?

I did talk therapy for about six months after the incident and I suppose some CBT despite my therapist not really calling it that. We talked a lot about how unlikely it was to happen again. Plus extensive dissection of my feelings on it and at like month two she encouraged me to go to the mall again. Instead of SSP I went to Natick. For the next few months I was going once a week and we talked about how it made me feel. At first I could only be there for 10 - 15 minutes but by the time I stopped going, I was fine spending the day there. I still won't go back to SSP because apparently shit happens there a lot and the memories are still to fresh but I can go to pretty much any other mall no problem now otherwise. I'm still a bit jumpy when there is shouting in stores or big bangs but overall I'm pretty much back to normal.

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George Floyd had so many protestors partly because nobody was working due to Covid. So anybody going to the is just jobless lol

This thread is awesome lmao OP fucked you up

Australia is literally the size of 25 million people where as in California there are 39 million people… see how that doesn’t compare country vs country? Just last Month buddy https://youtu.be/Izaq2XQixTA Dude when on a 6hour rampage and no one could stop him Because no one had guns.

Also this happened a hostage situation at a coffee shoop.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindt_Cafe_siege

I’m here to point out to you that if this gun ban worked these tragedies would not have happened in Australia. If the strict gun laws were more lac innocent people would have had a fighting chance. Ala https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2022/07/18/elisjsha-dicken-identified-as-man-who-killed-greenwood-park-mall-suspsect/65375869007/

Just think about this the next time a talking head wants you to give up your rights for the sake of “public safety”. Think lockdowns eviction moratorium you know “safety”.

I mean western mass really starts at Newton for many of us Bostonians so the statement seems more accurate 😂