Recent comments in /f/massachusetts

CustyMojo t1_j7h8bzx wrote

The woman went upstairs, grabbed a BB gun and said "im gonna shoot you and myself". Up until that point. It was wellness check, but quickly escalated into suicide by cop. If I go upstairs into my house during a wellness check, grab a weapon, and say I'm gonna kill you and myself. The cop is well within their rights to use force to protect themselves...don't be a retard.

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AnyRound5042 t1_j7h6jey wrote

From what I've heard this was a mental health crisis and the police were called for a wellness check, but what showed up was an execution squad. When will the state learn that these thugs are not capable of dealing with any situation requiring a little bit of tact or nuance. This was not suicide by cop. This was a state sanctioned murder by cop

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bjanas t1_j7h680x wrote

Ok, on the F word, you brought up the Nazis, so sorry if that feels like a stretch. And I went out of my way to say "or other authoritarian regime in power"; you're unfairly characterizing what I said as only including fascism.

All this conversation started from was a couple of people saying "you know, being in the Boy Scouts I can understand the appeal of those types of youth groups" and you rolled in to basically say "nuh uh, the boy scounts aren't the Hitler Youth!"

You're not refuting our point, you're just going out of your way to defend the Boy Scouts when they're not even being attacked.

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onomonothwip t1_j7h5m41 wrote

I don't know why you are suggesting that I 'can't wrap my head around it' - especially when I pointed out the specific historical example you were dancing around. Of course I 'get' it, but I think it's a pointless thing to bring up.

I also find it stupid to specify 'fascism' when we're really talking about extremism, which has historically taken root in countless different corners and pockets of marginalized society.

I dunno, boy scouts had a ton of issues, and I always despised the broader organization, but other than kids in uniforms being taught discipline and pride as positive concepts (How dare they!), there's simply no deeper or meaningful connection.

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bjanas t1_j7h3y38 wrote

...still kind of missing the point. Yeah, there have always been youth organizations. And they've often been used as politicized youth corps/policing/etc by groups over the years.

Nobody's calling the Boy Scouts Hitler Youth. Because it's just an entirely different environment. If you can't wrap your head around the idea that a fascist state or other authoritarian regime in power would ABSOLUTELY utilize a group like that in a similar way, that's fine.

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