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new_Australis OP t1_j80fjg1 wrote

Thank you for your words. We will work with him on not saying that phrase as it may hurt other kids feelings and the teacher's feelings as well. Maybe he will be more sympathetic to this reasoning. He often says oh my gosh as a replacement since his teacher told him to say that instead. So it's not so much the phrase oh my god more so the word god that is the issue with the teacher. As she has told him to say oh my goodness or oh my gosh as a substitute.

We will try to tell him to say oh man, or oh wow as a substitute.

I can say it's my fault as I often say oh my god, well.. "OH MY GA" is the actual phrase I use at home mainly when talking to my mother as it's her favorite phrase. So my guess is that our son hears me and as kid do they mimic their parents.

I will work on not using this phrase around him.

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forrealz42 t1_j80fgk0 wrote

Yeah, I know. I have a really bad habit of dropping F-bombs in bad situations because it doesn't even register to me as a bad word anymore. Like, I have my own problems with bad words and inappropriately timed words and I'm way older than your kid. But I am old enough to tell people who are offended by my saying oh my god to fuck off which he is not.

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new_Australis OP t1_j80eoiv wrote

>He might be a bit too young to understand the distinction between bad words and words that aren't appropriate in certain settings

Yes. We have told him which words are vulgar, shit fuck, bitch etc, not told him directly but he hears it on the tv, movies, in the street and he asks about it and we tell him we do not use those words. We just never got around telling him the word god would be an issue. Mainly because I never thought it would be.

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gtrain05 t1_j80ekpb wrote

Kid is making a innocent mistake and the teacher has the right to try to stop it. I would contact the teacher and have a talk with them. How can you both help the child not say it but also not to the point where the kid is feeling stressed out over a small mistake. Good lesson to learn but don’t have to make it really stressful for the kid.

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new_Australis OP t1_j80edi3 wrote

>I believe going over the teachers head from the get-go would exascerbate things, and worsen your kids relationship with their teacher.

This is true

>I'd request a meeting with the teacher to discuss things, and see if they can't be reasonable.

If it happens one more time I will choose this option. Thank you for your advice.

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JaKr8 t1_j80dxat wrote

I don't know that she is forcing her beliefs on him, as opposed to just maybe not wanting to have certain type of outbursts in the class. It's very easy to have things get out of hand very quickly when you've got 20 some kids in a room, many of which already do not want to be there, even at 5 years old. I see no reason why you couldn't have a civil discussion about this with the teacher, but keep in mind sometimes you have to set more specific boundaries when you've got 20 five year olds running around your room versus one or three kids at home..

A long long long time ago, when one of my kids was in kindergarten, I was walking home after pickup with another parent whose child was in the same kindergarten class as mine was. The child was telling us he got in trouble for using the 'S' word with another child in the class.

"Stupid"

First of all, we were expectingit to be a different word.. And secondly, I understand although that's not a bad word per se, that its may be not a word the teacher wants used in her classroom. Anyway, we as parents had a chuckle about it, and the parent told their kid not to say that word at school. Never became an issue again.

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forrealz42 t1_j80d8ks wrote

He might be a bit too young to understand the distinction between bad words and words that aren't appropriate in certain settings. But he sounds really upset by the way they're speaking to him. I'd talk to the teacher about how they're addressing it but also maybe make an effort to not say it around him. It seems to be distressing to him that mimicking your behavior/doing something that you think is ok is getting him in trouble at school.

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new_Australis OP t1_j80cug6 wrote

>Have you tried asking the teacher (respectfully) to try removing the stick from their ass?

I have not, I am debating whether to do this or not. Since we fear the teacher will hold it against our son.

>It's perfectly acceptable to say oh my god in a public school.

I agree

>Your teacher giving your kid shit for it is what we call, forcing their religion on your child, and is not acceptable.

I agree, this is how I feel. She is forcing her beliefs onto him. Something we don't do as our atheist beliefs are our own and if he chooses religion in the future that will be his option.

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BovaDesnuts t1_j80ci96 wrote

>I agree with this statement however it is our belief that those are not bad words that being said we have to teach him where and when he can say certain things.

It's easy. He needs to understand and accept the base rules of polite conversation before he can break them. And you can be straightforward about that. "Hey, other people don't like this and if you're gonna be saying it out of habit, we can't let you say it here, either".

>Teachers talk and pass their biases all the way up.

>This is his mother's fear. That the teacher will hold a grudge against him and give him a hard time all around.

Not just this teacher. It'll follow up to high school and compound over the years, in all likelihood.

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new_Australis OP t1_j80c63e wrote

>Letting him say it at home is a mistake

I agree with this statement however it is our belief that those are not bad words that being said we have to teach him where and when he can say certain things.

>Teachers talk and pass their biases all the way up.

This is his mother's fear. That the teacher will hold a grudge against him and give him a hard time all around.

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NazMack t1_j80bsp8 wrote

It can be extremely offense to some . . . Taking the Lord's name in vain and whatnot.

Believe it or not, I had the same problem about 40 years ago when I was in 1st grade, lol. I retrained myself to say "Oh my Gosh".

Maybe try that or some redirection . . . hopefully next year his new teacher will focus more on teaching.

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BovaDesnuts t1_j80aumh wrote

>Is this an offensive phrase or something?

Yes and no, and also yes. It's offensive to hardcore Christians on account of it taking the lords name in vain. It's Also offensive to hard-core atheists, who don't want any mention of God ever anywhere even once. It's also also an offensive phrase to people who feel that references to Christianity are not inclusive and have no place in public. But any normal person doesn't give a shit.

>What can I do in this situation?

>I have spoken to our son about not saying those words in school but at home is okay since they are not bad words. However he keeps getting in trouble and comes home visibly upset and sad.

Letting him say it at home is a mistake. He needs to learn the standards before he can break it, and making enemies so early in your education is a mistake, especially if he's in a public program and will continue to be. Teachers talk and pass their biases all the way up.

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rootsnall t1_j80arre wrote

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