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HalpTheFan OP t1_j6fhxmy wrote

It was also used in the trailer too. So in both instances, it was in the trailer (promotional material) and the final film. Yes, the scene is the screams she heard in the park. It's in the clip I've shared above.

I'm also not sure if Rei is apart of any guild - at least any more but at the time of recording, she may have been.

Also thank you for having a reasonable and forward argument on this, instead of just defending a company that is likely in the wrong. I do genuinely appreciate that.

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olgil75 t1_j6fhi91 wrote

You'd be correct. In 2021, IMDB indicates there were 1,388 horror movies released and of that total only three of them were found footage, which equates to 0.2% of the total horror movies released that year. I don't know how many horror movies have been released over the years, but according to this list on IMDB there's a little over 500 found footage movies in existence, which is definitely less than a percent of the total horror movies that have ever been made. OP is reaching, and badly.

EDIT: I've seen some other websites that list additional found footage films not on the aforementioned list, but even assuming there were 15 total released in 2021, that would still only be about 1% of the total horror output.

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olgil75 t1_j6fgzuf wrote

The reason you haven't seen that many is because contrary to OP's assertion, there actually aren't that many found footage films. According to IMDB, in 2021 there were 1,388 horror movies released and of those only three were found footage films. If you consider every horror movie that's ever been released, or better yet every film that's ever been released, you're talking about a film style that makes up a fraction of a fraction of a percent.

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tattloaf87 t1_j6fggro wrote

I actually really like them. There are a bunch of rotten examples but some of my favorites are As above so below, the taking of Deborah Logan, and Hell house LLC. I'm actually not a fan of Blair Witch, which I think is what most people base their judgment of found footage on.

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stumpcity t1_j6fgc1w wrote

The Hollywood Reporter

Variety

Deadline

The Wrap

98% of all legitimate reporting on anything involving the movie industry comes from those four outlets. Every now and again more entertainment minded outlets will also get their own stories (Vanity Fair, New York Mag/Vulture, Rolling Stone, Entertainment Weekly) but usually if you just watch those four sites, you'll get almost everything that's legitimate news

Avoid "Geek Culture" oriented sites (IGN, Polygon, Slashfilm, Collider, etc) because they're almost always only just rewriting what comes from those four sites in the first place. Also avoid YouTubers (mostly grifters) TikTok-ers (they tend to get their news from YouTube, LOL) and Twitter "Scoopers" (they're frequently also YouTube Grifters that make shit up for the sake of securing Patreons).

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chemicaldrone t1_j6ffzxq wrote

Wow! That's a lot more than I expected. Thanks so much. I'll be looking into these right away. I kind of gave up on horror a decade or so ago. Everything was all blurring together & I started guessing at where the plots in movies were going with weird accuracy. It will be cool to see some genuinely good movies.

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olgil75 t1_j6fflxo wrote

Not only is it not true, it's never been true. Here is a comprehensive list of every found footage movie that's been released over the years. It indicates only three were released in 2021. According to this list on IMDB, there were 1,388 horror movies released in 2021. That means 3 out of 1,388 horror movies or 0.2% were found footage films, lol.

EDIT: It's weird that OP would even make that claim because elsewhere in this thread they linked to a horror movie database that's incomplete and doesn't include every horror movie by a long shot. But even the information they provided has found footage films at 1.7% of their total database and 2.9% of the movies released in 2022. It's laughable to talk about these films as though they're a huge part of the film industry or horror genre.

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Defiant63 t1_j6ffl8p wrote

I don't have a specific app or website, but here's where I get my movie news:

  1. Dan Murrell on YouTube

  2. jstoobs on TikTok

  3. straw_hat_goofy on TikTok

  4. ScreenCrush on YouTube (more superhero movie tho)

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codyong t1_j6ff45j wrote

I love this film, the story and relationship between Cooper and Gyllenhaal is captivating. I always thought that his brother was played by Brenden Fraser but it's not.

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hollywooddouchenoz t1_j6fe7vl wrote

Let me say although I saw Tar, I don’t know the context where this clip was used. If it was just the audio worked into the sound design— it’s possible it was slipped in by an editor without being officially noted (was it the screams she heard in the park?). In which case there could be a lawsuit here.

Also, I have no doubt there IS a copyright covering the sound and visuals of the original film; and they definitely should have paid a licensing fee to the controlling entity for using it in their production.

In the case of a traditional production made under guild agreements; actors, director, composer would be compensated as part of that licensing agreement process (if the clip used involved visuals or the music).

In the case of licensing materials that were produced outside of those guild agreements, there is often no requirement to pay the talent involved. So even if there was money properly paid, there’s a very good chance that none of it would go beyond the corporation owning the rights (Live entertainment?)

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olgil75 t1_j6fe47m wrote

Why do you insist on moving the goalposts? So now you want to talk specifically about supernatural horror movies that are currently available on streaming for free in the United States? Are you kidding me with that bullshit?Here's what you originally said, since you keep shifting your argument when it suits you: "As a horror fan this is upsetting because so many these days are found footage."

That's clearly not true when you consider of the 1,300+ horror movies released in 2021 only three of them were found footage. That's a far cry from the "so many these days" that you initially and erroneously claimed.

So how about you provide information that backs up your claims instead of shitting on other people who prove you wrong? Considering there were only three found footage movies released in 2021, I find it hard to believe they'd even make up a substantial percentage of a subgenre in horror movies, but feel free to prove me wrong with sources instead of what you think about the numbers.

Or you could just accept that you were wrong and overreaching in your initial comments.

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