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Ok-Survey-9077 t1_j6ilq1v wrote

I’m not pretending there’s no sub text, it’s just not a particularly thematically deep film, and the film beats you over the head with its main themes repeatedly, it does not expect the viewer to do much of any thinking. It’s a kids first introduction to its themes and that’s fine given that it’s a kids film, but it’s not a particularly “deep cut into humanity as a whole”

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logicalnoise t1_j6ikyey wrote

You're acting like there's no subtext. The subtheme of death, failure and renewal as something regular humans lack and don't understand is a constant theme. Pinocchio gets to live several lives in an environment and time where most humans don't and it enhances the OG story while making its own progress.

I agree the film isn't perfect and the songs should have been better but it's a very deep cut into humanity as a whole.

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Ashamed_Ladder6161 t1_j6ikxij wrote

It’s Chekhov’s gun. Don’t show the ingredients can be deadly if you don’t intend to flirt with it. I think they’re plenty of ways you can illustrate that same point, not that you need to, the film already established this without needing it… also, the film closes on her having a coughing fit. That’s not an accident. Lol

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omnilynx t1_j6iko3q wrote

The foreshadowing on the bad meat is to show how morbid the staff are and how close to death the customers are without knowing it. It doesn't need a physical payoff where it's used to kill someone.

Also, as someone else pointed out, you would never use aged meat for a classic hamburger. The difference in taste would be immediately apparent.

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fonduktoe t1_j6ik6i9 wrote

Not this stupid theory again. The lady's explanation in the smokehouse was a tad hyperbolic for narrative effect. There is no meat that becomes a deadly poison because it's aged 1 day more. I also don't think it is in Chef's character at all to serve tainted meat especially in a burger (the nostalgia in his eyes as he cooked it showed he was proud of it).

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OfferOk8555 t1_j6ik18v wrote

It’s definitely in the 500 Days of Summer, Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind vein of “Mr, nice guy” movies.

Has a lot of heart but flawed and will probably continue to age kind of poorly.

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Ashamed_Ladder6161 t1_j6ijn3j wrote

You say this, and I get your point, but I think it’s meant to be a point of contention; the foreshadowing for the bad meat is NOT subtle, and the pay off is how she chokes on it the while on the boat in the closing seconds. It’s there to make you doubt what’s happening. Personally, I find it unlikely that he’d kill her that way, I think the director has said so himself, but the film is posing that question. It’s being impish.

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