My biggest problem with it was that it didn’t seem like a movie Andy would have enjoyed very much or would have inspired him. I’ve always imagined the buzz lighter story to be more of a star wars space opera which what toy story portrayed it to be or made it seem like that’s what it was. I think Andy would have been bored by what this movie ended up being.

It failed because it wasn't very good

They should’ve animated it intentionally bad like a 90s cartoon. Satire, basically.

If only there was a movie called Buzz Lightyear of star command that already existed and was better than Lightyear…

Not a bad idea of having the film bookended, but as we all know Buzz was a birthday gift.

There’s no way this was 9-year-old Andy’s favorite movie, it had more in common with a gritty reboot made by people who didn’t see the original

For me, it was the robot cat. I saw it in the trailer, recognized it as a cynical marketing attempt, and lost all interest I had in the film.

^This comment is a MASTERCLASS in commenting on comments.

thats probably where being connected to toy story did them in. they banked on name recognition and they expected that name recognition to allow it to do well in theaters. turning red was a much better movie and in a world where there was no panini, it def wouldve done well at the box office. but they seemed spooked to put a new animated ip in theaters due to the panini so it is what it is

You're totally right! It's a great sci-fi movie on it's own but linking it to Toy Story felt unnecessary and ultimately ruined it. Buzz should have been an entirely new character made for the film. In that instance the twist at the end would have been great. Instead, it ended up irritating the audience because it doesn't connect to what we saw in Toy Story 2.

Ok, I get that as a metric. One proof point.

But I am going to go with economics. The fact is they spent $200k to make this movie and brought in $158k. And that does NOT count marketing spend.

Losing THAT much money, on ANYTHING, is a loss. A failure. Something that should end career(s).

nah the guy is talking about why they think people thought their movie sucked. you dont learn anything if you just listen to the kids who say "this movie sucked," but you do learn something if you listen to the kids who explain why the movie sucked. this is them explaining that

In this case, "going woke" means... what? Having black scientist, and like 2 quick seconds that vaguely acknowledge the character is a lesbian... Like how wonderbread does a movie have to be to appease these haters?

It would have been perfect if it wasn't a time loop movie. They easily could of had an after credit scene with andy watching it as if it were a show.

Guess I'm in the minority, cause I liked it. But the people saying the toy can't be based on that movie are spot on.. or like the toy buzz clearly doesn't think the same. There were a bunch of jokes.. the cartridge bit had me loling... and the cat was hilarious. Me and my kid were laughing at that cat all movie. The anti-woke fearmongering surrounding the movie was ridiculous. I went in pretty blind ( I hate trailers), so I didn't know about any of the time plot, and I was surprised by how sophisticated it was. I though it was good sci-fi, because it took a premise and ran with it.

Is just justification so they can do a new Toy Story no-one asked for right?

I think this is the correct answer. Well thought out and explained.

You will be entertained.

“We did a lot of soul-searching” and then proceeds to not take accountability and instead says that the audience is just too dumb to like it.

Maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t all that great of a story?

Me neither. What I remember was conservative homophobes freaking out over a gay relationship and just boycotting the movie.

The movie itself was perfectly fine, and a great story. People that were confused are real...special.

Solid movie. Both my kids liked it 7/10.

It was no “Toy Story” though. Just a good family sci fi.

This reads to me as him saying "the movie was good, you all are dumb for not understanding why it's good"

No sorry, the movie was unnecessary and boring. It's up there with Cars 2 and The Good Dinosaur.

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They should have done an introduction scene of the kid from Toy Story walking into the theaters with his mom to watch the movie. And then a credits scene of him buying the Buzz toy in a store.

Its probably a huge tax write off tho