I really liked the movie... I guess that's all I have to add here

It couldn’t have been that bad. It has 74% critic rating and 84% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Seems more mediocre than outright bad

I mean I liked it, but I have no attachment to toy story. I saw it as a decent Sci fi movie

They could have done the sci-fi movie, if it portrayed Buzz as the space hero like in the Toy Story 2 opening.

I'd prefer if he didn't try to blame it on the audience being dumb.

You're just twisting his words to sound selfish. He said they made the mistake of assuming enough people will understand the film

I think the word you're looking for is "Himbo". :)

It was a bad idea…I guess these guys who think they know everything about telling stories, don’t.

Uh yeah. Other reasons come to mind on why it failed but I don't even want to open up that can of worms. All I can say is enough already.

I didn't watched it. I usually check review before doing it. Reviews said that it is woke so i avoided it

They were just so secretive about it, only saying that it's his origin story, but also not at all nudge nudge, wink wink.

I was set up for disappointment by the intro; don't tell me Buzz Lightyear was a character in a mid 90's alien action flick and then not deliver an homage to the genre.

I still liked it. My nephew is obsessed, so we watch it all the time. But there was a better movie in there somewhere.

This is telling. My nieces are the same age and any movie they like they will watch at least 3-4 times.

The premise they advertised was "in-universe Toy Story movie." Basically the movie that inspired Andy to buy Buzz Lightyear toys, except there was no Andy and no toys. It's not incorrect to say kids won't connect with that.

Besides, do you really expect the guy in charge of Pixar to say "our movie was bad, sorry everyone"?

It would be funny if he just blamed Chris Evans.

And not the princess? She could straight up phase through shit. Top tier.

>The charm of Buzz is a toy who thinks he's a space hero; not in a real space hero.

Is it? I loved the Buzz Lightyear TV show as a kid, and it was presumably the TV show they would have had in the Pixar Universe featuring Buzz Lightyear, and not about the toy. That "charm" worked just fine for me then.

He still doesn't get it.

Wow didn’t know it didn’t come out in theaters. Not much of a theater goer and usually watch movies well after they were released. Someone recommended turning red and I thought it was awesome. Never would have guessed it didn’t have a theater release.

Biopic???

What's not being said

Except it really isn't. It's a Frankenstein of tired and worn out sci fi tropes that have all been done better before, with a forced 'Pixar message' that does nothing but detract from the A plot.

The movie was bad.

What the fuck are you going on about?

The movie was bad. Because it was.

It's a boiler plate premise that has been done to death. "What? The villain of the time travel story is an older, alternate version of the hero? Le Gasp!".

The characters were shallow.

The 'message' was shoehorned in and had basically nothing to do with anything in the main plot.

The pacing dragged.

It was a poorly put-together movie.

I loved the movie. As a stand-alone thing, it makes sense. I don’t get how people see two different iterations of the character, notice they are different iterations of the character, and get upset that they’re different.

It’s a film character. Then they make a toy for the character who has their own personality - because Toys in Toy Story are sentient and have their own personalities. People compare TS2 Buzz to Lightyear Buzz and complain they’re not the same, but TS2 Buzz had a completely different story arc in the first, had completely different relationships and wants, and was a different person.

Like…why are you so angry? It’s not like you can’t watch the Toy Story franchise anymore to see the Buzz you know and love, Lightyear was just a different take on the character.

People had a fondness for the television show and the movie said "nah, it ain't like that"