It didn't feel like a 90s SF-action film - and definitely not one a kid would've considered his favorite movie.

My headcanon is Andy saw Strange Days instead.

Right, Pixar dropped the ball. but I thought thats how Chris Evans described it initially like he's the man the toy is based on.

The unused movie within movie idea is still great regardless.

Box office success doesn’t correlate with quality. Plenty of mediocre to good movies have bombed. You’re thinking in capitalistic terms

SPOILER ALERT:

Gladiator is literally a remake of a 1964 epic called The Fall of the Roman Empire.

Anyway, both movies take lots of liberties with the facts. The central plot is one example. In both movies, Commodus has a rivalry with Livius/Maximus and ends up duelling him to the death (this didn't happen in real life). Also, the rival has a romance with Lucilla (Commodus' sister) which is also fiction.

Nevertheless, both movies are worth a watch if you're not that interested about historical accuracy and just want a decent movie.

I thought the same, then that cat surprised me as being the one fun part of the movie.

I am Asian not even white why are you assuming my race? Thank you is my english good enough to sound like white American .

Most people here don't want to watch lgb shows or movie. I am just telling you truth. Nothing else what is my mistake if truth is bitter for you? Do you want me to lie? Lgbq is very big minority even in USA. I have family there lol

If you want to do huge business then you need to make something that conservative also enjoy. In many Asian countries conservative are majority. And big percentage of USA

I am seeing American media becoming less popular everyday in my and other Asian countries because of wokism.i myself mostly watch Asian media these days I don't care about race of actor as long they're attractive and good actor. Zendaya is brown and i like her she is cute.

I really liked this movie. I can't imagine a kid liking it

Easy. Time = distance + speed. Or something

It's all relative...

It certainly wasn't good enough to get butts in seats.

The movie bombed, and it didn't do so because it was too challenging. Pixar made their name doing that shit. There is no way that Lightyear was a more challenging film than Up for example.

Watch them make a b&w Woody film in the John Wayne western style and wonder why it also bombs at the box office.

In my opinion, the plot is too complex for a kids movie, but the actual writing is way too toddler level for most adults to enjoy. Most of the time the resolution for any issues they came across (that were almost always caused by someone doing something dumb) were basically Paw Patrol level.

And I mean seriously, if Andy had watched that movie Woody would have been riding around on a Sox the Cat toy.

Well, it is Einstein‘s relativity theory. Who does understand that really? Explaining it to a six year old seems like a fun challenge though.

You know what I mean and your violent reaction shows that you wouldn’t even listen to anything I had to say.

Two women kissing, let alone people kissing shouldn’t be in a movie geared for kids…Disney has gone all out on this and their results have proved to be disastrous.

Maybe zerg being buzz was a dog shit twist and everything related to the cartoon for the nearly 100% of people this movie would have mattered to was invalidated

I loved Lightyear and think the general public have no taste.

A thought for a better movie

It's a movie about the actors FILMING the movie of Buzz Lightyear, a kinda stock childrens cartoon fare of the 80s. However the Buzz actor is a "method actor" and gets too much of an ego, tensions flare, and people have to pull together and have some heart to heart moments to get the movie finished, "because it's not about us, it's about the kids who will be inspired by it."

And then after-credits scene of adult Andy working at NASA

That and the Hercules show are two Disney shows I never hear people talk about even though they were great fun. They aren't even on Disney+, at least where I live.

> It's not the audiences' fault for not understanding the movie. It's Pixar's fault for not understanding their own character.

This reeks of "do you guys not have phones" arrogance. Sad to see Pixar go the way of Blizzard, but with this attitude it's almost guaranteed they won't recover.

Aah okay. There’s no need to hide behind the favorite code word of right wing bigots, “woke.” Just say you want to go back to the days when lgbtq, Black and brown people were marginalized and movies solely focused on straight white people.

Better for them to have done this as a standalone movie with a new character at a lower budget. I Ben if it failed, they would have lost a lot less $$ and not punched a hole in their Toy Story franchise.

“We asked too much of the audience” reeks of condescension: it’s not our fault you didn’t want to buy tickets to our movie. Toy story is the gold standard of Pixar and Disney animated franchises. Lightyear was an ok movie, but they chose to cut ties with Buzz Lightyear, a character they’d spent decades building. For a beloved animated character, altering the look and replacing the voice is guaranteed to throw an audience. Nothing against Chris Evans, but imagine replacing Tom Hanks with him for Woody with similar changes. It’s just not Woody any more. Yes, Pixar says this is the movie Andy watched, but they’re not fooling anyone.

Pixar has made some of the best animated films ever. I hope they get their mojo back.

That’s how I read this too. He’s blaming the audience but the movie just wasn’t great in reality. Looks like he can’t see past the work.

Honestly none of the plot should matter. Kids don't go to a movie for the plot and no one really knows before they see it. The appeal is or buzz himself and thafs it.

My six year old daughter loves the movie so I dunno what to say lol

I still don't understand frozen 2 myself but my daughter seems to get it lol

I think you can have the serious Buzz or source material Buzz, but it had to be first, not the other way around. We love toy Buzz. We want toy Buzz. We want Buzz and Woody together. I don’t think we’re interested in source material Buzz now that we’ve had Toy Buzz. Besides, did Lightyear even match the tone of what we imagine the source material to be like to create a toy like Buzz?

Seems like a Star Wars problem, where you let the IP live in our heads too long, then add to it. You are going to have to be perfect to make most of the fans happy, and even then, not everyone will be happy. You can gauge how old a person is by how offended they are by each trilogy.

>He said they made the mistake of assuming enough people will understand the film

Yeah, and the problem isn't that we didn't understand it, the problem is that it wasn't very good.

We understood it fine.

(But I can understand why kids weren't that excited about it.)