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livefreethendie t1_j333ss2 wrote

Amoskeag would be way too long of a commute fron Lisbon i used to drive for them and did the lisbon/littleton/woodsville route actually. There might be a northern based bud distributor up there but im just not sure. Its a tough spot a lot of the truck driving jobs are located more central like near concord. One thing is for sure though is that there are no shortage of truck driving jobs in nh im sure there will be something up there even if its not beer. Theres always bread and chips and soda. Gas and fuel if he can get tanker and hazmat. If you happen to have questions i can do my best to answer or ask around. Its a beautiful area up there i hope you guys love it welcome to nh!

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vexingsilence t1_j333pv5 wrote

17 years old is not a "kid". That's a young adult.

The police do not control the mental health system.

There is no federal role in this, it's up to the state and local authorities. The feds can provide assistance, but they have to leave this to the states to figure out. It is not in the fed's domain.

>They're in a position to change how they react to the situation. Drawing weapons was a personal choice, made by both officers.

Not based on what we know. A person menacing people with a knife is a deadly situation. The police must react if that person is threatening the life of another. We'll have to wait until more information is released, but so far there are no red flags. The police did what they're trained to do, and they're trained the way they are to protect us and the police that responded.

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livefreethendie t1_j333np1 wrote

Amoskeag would be way too long of a commute fron Lisbon i used to drive for them and did the lisbon/littleton/woodsville route actually. There might be a northern based bud distributor up there but im just not sure. Its a tough spot a lot of the truck driving jobs are located more central like near concord. One thing is for sure though is that there are no shortage of truck driving jobs in nh im sure there will be something up there even if its not beer. Theres always bread and chips and soda. Gas and fuel if he can get tanker and hazmat. If you happen to have questions i can do my best to answer or ask around. Its a beautiful area up there i hope you guys love it welcome to nh!

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j333ej1 wrote

> They are well aware that many folks wearing the badge have no business doing so and are a danger to themselves and the public.

So what do they actually do about that, then? Do they snitch on their fellow cops? Or do they just kinda accept that public danger?

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j332hb3 wrote

> I’m not sure what killings you’re talking about.

Sorry, having two similar conversations at the same time, and got my wires a bit crossed. This was in reference to that Gilford kid.

> And the state does a pretty mediocre job of educating children.

Maybe because... they're not getting enough funds to do the job right? Just a thought.

> You notice how many dumb people are around?

Oh come on, you're making this one way too fucking easy. The bait is just too obvious, here.

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j331vkl wrote

Yep, my bad. Similar arguments at the same time, getting my wires a bit crossed. Sorry about that.

To what you said: no, that's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying that, regardless of authority or expertise, I don't have to listen to anyone representing a group that's known to be dishonest. My comment was in response to someone else saying that cops lie. I agree with that person: yes, they do, and I have no reason to trust them to represent themselves honestly.

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j331f7c wrote

> It's only warranted if they did something wrong.

Killing kids isn't wrong?

> They're not at fault for the way our society deals with mental health.

They're at fault for their role in the way our society deals with mental health.

> So long as their procedures were carried out properly, there's nothing else to pursue.

"I was just following orders, Sir."

> If you want to revamp the entire system

I'd love to do this. Yes, please.

> that's something that either needs to be done at the local level or by the state legislature.

Ideally, I'd like to work on that at every level, ranging from the individual level to the national level.

> Cops responding to an emergency call aren't in a position to make those kind of changes

They're in a position to change how they react to the situation. Drawing weapons was a personal choice, made by both officers.

> they have to follow their department's policies and procedures.

They really don't, though.

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vexingsilence t1_j32w3op wrote

>If it's not warranted after the police kill a kid, then when is it warranted?

It's only warranted if they did something wrong. They're not at fault for the way our society deals with mental health. It escalated to the point where someone needed 911 and a police response, authorities told reporters that the individual was armed with a knife. So long as their procedures were carried out properly, there's nothing else to pursue. The AG will make that determination, and if not, it can be decided in the courts.

If you want to revamp the entire system, that's something that either needs to be done at the local level or by the state legislature. Cops responding to an emergency call aren't in a position to make those kind of changes, they have to follow their department's policies and procedures.

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Maldonian t1_j32w2sq wrote

If the stabber had been kept caged previously, people wouldn’t have been stabbed.

Yes, the outcome disappoints me, but lots of things disappoint me. That doesn’t mean I’m going to pay people to change their behavior. Sure, I’m disappointed when people spend their money on drugs instead of housing. They should stop doing that.

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j32vgh8 wrote

> “You should listen to all perspectives of stakeholders directly impacted by the issues you mention, it might help you learn and developed a more balanced world view”

If you sincerely believe this to be reasonable without exception, then you'd be listening to the teachers who are directly impacted by the issues you're mentioning. Let's at least try to be consistent.

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NathanVfromPlus t1_j32rv9k wrote

> If a person is wielding a knife in a threatening manner, that's not a situation where a social worker is magically going to defuse the situation.

Actually... yeah, it absolutely can be. Often, that's exactly what mental health crisis intervention looks like.

> Is it possible? Sure.

Not just possible, but also plausible, and more probable than a police officer doing the same.

> But depending on how the situation played out, this may not have been avoidable.

That's pretty defeatist. Sure, it's possible the death might have been unavoidable... but what if it was avoidable? We'll never know now.

> If anything, we need to address these mental health issues before it gets to a situation like this.

10,000% behind this.

> But simply pointing fingers at the police and police procedures does not appear to warranted right now.

If it's not warranted after the police kill a kid, then when is it warranted?

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