I don't know, being surrounded by 3-4 people and getting suckered punched in the face would seem to present an issue yo your claim. You also didn't answer the question. Was he supposed to cry in fear?

Stick to your Boston idiocy and leave us alone. There are already a bunch of threads on this here.

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It is an affirmative defense, which means the defendant has the burden of proof.

I see none here that suggests the defendant was in fear for his life.

A.) You don't know whether either punch was provoked or not

B.) While a punch to the face can technically be lethal, it seems that it is a far stretch from "deadly force" under the NH law. (If you get into a fist fight it's considered assault not attempted murder in the vast majority of cases)

C.) I would assume that if you follow someone out of an establishment to confront them with implied confrontation/violence that is not defending yourself. That person is looking for a confrontation and they responded with deadly force

I love the seacoast! Hampton and Portsmouth have so many great places to eat, drink, swim, It’a wonderful here!

https://www.azfamily.com/video/2022/08/16/man-dies-after-being-punched-by-prescott-valley-wendy-employee/

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2022/07/13/salt-lake-city-police-arrest/

https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/man-accused-of-killing-another-man-with-one-punch-at-gas-station/

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/trump/2022/09/19/victim-of-assault-by-two-men-outside-short-north-bar-has-died/69502512007/

Yikes dude. Yikes.

In both civil and criminal law there's always been a big distinction between deadly and non deadly force. It's one thing to have people going home with broken noses, it's another to have people leaving in body bags. You generally cannot respond to non deadly force with deadly force.

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Punches are generally non deadly force. In this case The roundhouse thrown certainly was non deadly force. You cannot respond to non deadly force with deadly force. As a retired attorney who practiced in both Mass and New Hampshire I can tell you that the arguments regarding the defendant thinking he may have received life-threatening damage from the knockout which would then permit him to use lethal force is not going to fly in front of a jury. This is because of two reasons, the first is a reasonable person would not think that and that is the standard. The second is when you're not in your home, and you are confronted by deadly force you have a duty to retreat if you can. And these hold true in both civil and criminal law. Last, somebody said something about John's size. Well it's not definitive, again, go to the reasonable person. What a reasonable person of John's size be more or less fearful of someone much smaller? (Yes, someone's always going to bring up what if John thought the smaller guy might be a karate expert or something. Again, go to the reasonable person standard, would someone thinking the smaller guy is a martial arts expert be a reasonable assumption? No. That would be a big leap of faith). The ONLY a thing that might possibly make him guilty of a charge lesser than second degree murder is having received a blow to the head minutes earlier. That would be the battle of the expert witnesses. Second degree murder is not what they call a specific intent crime it is a crime of malice, therefore voluntary intoxication, which is a defense against specific intent crimes, is not a defense here in any way to lessen the charges.

His performance in state-level elections would suggest otherwise. MAGA does vote for him, as do a lot of moderates. Real-life moderates, not Reddit "moderates" don't generally have a problem with the type of abortion legislation he's supported, and education is rapidly changing, look at Youngkin in Virginia and even DeSantis' "don't say gay" bill is fairly popular nationally.

If you think Sununu isn't capable of appealing to moderates and MAGA, you're wrong. He can and already does, as every election he's run in in the state shows.

the guy is dead because he got physical. why did he have to get physical?

what would you consider evidence?

why would I blame someone responding to head trauma? let alone a second head trauma.

https://www.doj.nh.gov/news/2020/documents/20201008-41-l-use-of-deadly-force.pdf

read B and C.

I get sad reading that report every time it comes out. Some like the runaways I can sort of understand, but to just disappear? Sad, bewildering, and potentially scary-especially if you may fit a description of a couple of the suspiciously missing persons.

I understand the law and the reasoning for it but your calling the guy who allegedly threw two sucker punches an animal and not the guy who based on his own words, left the bar looking for retaliation of some kind and immediately drew his firearm firing 8 rounds an animal?

They both seem like giant cowards to me.

It’s not might be ignorant thought, it is an ignorant thought. I carry everywhere, and I purposely avoid confrontation at all cost. I don’t look for confrontation in hopes I get to kill somebody. Psycho

Read idiot.

Where is the evidence that the person was in fear of death?

Yea - this is bullshit.

The fact that someone punches you does not give you the right to execute him.

The fucking guy is dead because a wanna-be Clint Eastwood want to kill someone.

What if there was only one bad guy?

Former prosecutor here.

The initial pleading will always be not guilty. It is damn near malpractice for a defense lawyer to say anything differently than the lawyer did here.

So the OP is completely wrong about the significance here.

And no OP - I don't think you give a DAMN about the loss of life here. And you absolutely are trying to justify the result.

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Well obvs because there weren’t 20 dead bad guys