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SayNO2AutoCorect t1_jaafksp wrote

Reply to What’s the craziest thing you’ve ever seen in Atlantic City by nightwing2009

A few years ago the music teachers moved their state convention to the Sheraton. They go to clinics all day....and at night they basically go casino hopping. Have you ever seen a rager of music teachers pound $1000 of hard booze in an hour? holy shit. And then they come back here the next morning for 8am clinics where people are blasting their instruments or giving talks on feelings and strategies for rehearsing. Bonkers.

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Linenoise77 t1_jaaf9n7 wrote

Reply to If I drive to work between 11pm - 5am with a provisional license, Is that illegal. by fireball01200

Don't quote me on this, but i think that was the point of a provisional, assuming you have no passengers.

When I got my learners permit at 16, in the way back days, we weren't allowed to drive after dark. I get my license, and suddenly i was allowed to drive at dark, with no experience, with whomever in the car.

The graduated license was supposed to solve some of this stuff.

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reddittrees2 t1_jaaf18c wrote

Reply to comment by lotusvagabond in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816

Looks like the current charge is "conspiracy to commit Aggravated Assault". This is a serious charge and an indictable offense.

She was actually the victim of something called 'Criminal Battery' and the charge should be under the Aggravated Assault Statute, N.J.S.A. 2C:12-1.

In NJ a charge of "Simple Assault" need only require a victim be in "imminent fear of battery". That means a person only need to fear being attacked by the accuse for a Simple Assault charge.

For a charge of 'Criminal Battery' a person must have "made physical contact with the person or an extension of that person (i.e. something he or she was holding, wearing, etc.)."

> N.J.S.A. 2C:12-1(b), to intentionally or recklessly cause bodily harm to another with or without a deadly weapon is considered battery and aggravated assault.

Ag Assault is a second degree crime in NJ and can carry a penalty of 10 years in prison and a $150,000 fine.

This sort of thing is why you will frequently hear the charge of "assault and battery" as the Simple Assault charge precedes the Criminal Battery charge. (Also different states will handle the two charges in different ways and they may appear under different names.)

Relevant Case Law: State v. Battle, State v. Bryant, State v. Holmes.

(Additionally there is a possibility that a charge of 'Strict Liability' may apply. This relates to the actions of one person indirectly and unintentionally causing among other things the death of another person by way of related actions.)

(The actual charging requirements under the relevant statutes are somewhat more complicated and include a long list of qualifying actions and specific situations. This was a the most basic of basic explanations of the legal issues surrounding this awful tragedy.)

To inject a personal opinion: This is by far from the first time this has happened and I do believe legislation needs to be advanced to consider this specific situation and also ones substantially similar under the Strict Liability statute and include updated mitigating or aggravating factors when considering what charge(s) to bring when a student(s) cause another student to end their own life due to the actions of another student(s).

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ahumanlikeyou t1_jaae598 wrote

Reply to comment by ThatsNotFennel in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816

HAHA! God, you clearly don't have a kid or are massively out of touch. In the 90s, we went through hell! "Gay' and 'retard' were slurs and we used them like oxygen. My kid now reports experiences that are miles beyond anything that could have happened in my day. Massive improvements. Huge amounts of social sensitivity, sensitivity to pronouns, sensitivity to eating disorders, stress, different financial situations. Being heavy or attractive are not as important as they used to be. Of course all of this stuff is also the subject of bullying, still. I'm not saying it's gone away. It still happens all the time. But it is SO much better than it used to be. If you think otherwise, you don't remember what we went through.

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