I got suckered too. Had to get the Ground Round shirt! That and Charlie Browns were the best restaurants in the world to ne growing up.

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And moms! My parents dragged me to both many weekends in the 80s and 90s until I got old enough to do my own thing.

It could be. I moved in 2021, just when they were finishing it. It looks pretty fancy from the park though, in a 1930s WPA way

Wow 200 signatures in four years.

I'm fine with blue laws

there are a bunch of private beaches in NY because they are on private property

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Manhattan Beach in Brookyln. Seagate Beach you have to buy into the summer beach club which pays for cleaning and whatever. Long Island has a bunch of summer beach clubs that have private beaches you pay for. and some towns like Long Beach control their beaches and charge outsiders to use them.

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whoever owns the property can charge for use of it

"Rickel helps you do it better, do it better with Rickel."

Still remember that jingle from my childhood.

Also, r/nostalgia

Yes god forbid there are trained professionals ready to help you in the event of an emergency in often dangerous environment. I don’t know what beaches you go to where they “herd” you into tiny loacations. The beach is huge. Spread out my dude.

Frank's sounds familiar. Feels like I can picture the logo with a flower within the letters. Did you grow up near Brick?

Leave them in place. Not everything is about shopping or consumerism. as others have said, If you don’t like it, move. Every other place will let you spend your money.

Interpreting what the public trust doctrine actually means is not as straightforward as it sounds.

Try to access the beach in Mantoloking and see how that goes.

We had a Rickel on 18 in East Brunswick that became a Village Hardware and when Home Depot rebranded them it just became a home Depot. It was shut down in 2008 when Home Depot closed several underperforming locations in the wake of the housing market collapse.

Guarded beaches are the worst.

They create very narrow swimming areas and prohibit you from swimming outside these areas.

They herd you in like cattle leaving vast parts of the beach unusable. And I have to pay for this privilege?

It feels so restrictive. Freedom in America is an illusion. You can't move without someone telling you what to do or giving you a ticket for violating some rule.

NJ has absolutely the most restrictive beaches in the country.

I got lost in the Freehold Rickel when I was like 5. Ended up outside the store and a nice lady helped me find my mom.

NJ as a state does not do this. Also blue laws are great for workers who otherwise would rarely get weekends off.

Our ace, and another local hardware store are both open on sunday's for about half the day (and locally owned businesses despite the name). So i'm happy to support them.

What they are willing to sell you will depend on if they know you and what way the wind is blowing that day. If someone questions you just say "Emergency". There is a carve out in the county and town laws for that. Prices are meh compared to the big boxes, and you won't get everything you need there, but at the same time they stock well for what is in the area. So if you need some wacky plumbing fitting or whatever, because every house in your area was built between 1952 and 1954 and that was what people used for all of 3 years, they will be more likely to have it than the big orange or blue.

Their lumber, at least by me sucks and is limited in size. They are very brand specific on certain stuff so if you run certain tools, you may be SOL, and they also simply don't carry certain lines.

I've gotten into the habit of planning for doing the work on sunday, and gathering materials on saturday. Like i have to repain my staircase hallway this weekend, so today i ran out to lowes, the paint store, am in the middle of doing my prep now in case i missed anything, and tomorrow i can just roll paint.

My only real complaint starts next month, when we are getting the yard in order, and i realize i need a few bags of soil or plants or whatever on a sunday, and have to pay garden center prices, or drive out to patterson and lug dirt or whatever home in my car, vs a mile away and rent their truck for 20 bucks to make a mess with.

First beach to charge for access was Bradley Beach in 1929. It was descendants of James A. Bradley who put the rule in place. Bradley developed Asbury Park into the resort town it became and was also a supporter of segregation during post-civil war reconstruction. So it has racist, classist origins. My guess is it’s still a thing contemporarily because most citizens don’t question it and the towns like the tax revenue. But if you want to be cynical, there are still people who think it’s a good idea to restrict access to “certain people” (just read some of the other comments on this post referring to keeping “riff raff” off the beaches lol).

100% agree- all waterways - oceans, rivers,lakes, etc- there should be a nature easement

I can understand a modest fee to keep things clean. But when a private company owns the beach and security guards openly displaying pistols are collecting to cover charge, that's pure crap.

Like George Carlin said "The surgeon general warned today that saliva causes stomach cancer. But apparently only when swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time."

Some people think Reddit is license to be an asshole.

Financing a car when banks are closed is a nightmare. The dealership will predicate the deal based on their closest approximations and won't be held responsible for changes to the agreement after the bank gets involved the next day.

"Asp, very dangerous, you go first"

No one should be able to decide this. If I want to shop or work on Sunday or any day, it’s my business, not the government.

So when they ask you to pay to get on the beach, do you just say I am traversing the land to the high waterline and must be allowed free passage to such?