My Fuji in Suffern is hokey, but the views are pretty cool. Same for Emerald Point at the top of Greenwood Lake

Booo

Go away

Some weird jazz guitar chord progression.

90 acres in Peapack-Gladstone

I would imagine getting a return on the cost of the initial purchase and upkeep of the beach would be the reason.

People don't respect public property; you see how they litter and some actually vandalize, so who would want that on a place they pay good money for to enjoy the view.

This is the reason for gated communities and cul-de-sac layouts instead of grids, to limit access. People on the common causeway litter, let their pets do their business and are loud and obnoxious on their phones and blast their music.

Another prime example public transportation versus private transportation. Would you take a public conveyance today if you didn't' have to? Especially in crime ridden cities?

Entitlement isn't an argument for access in my book nor is equity. Even the Soviets had Dachas for the fortunate to escape the press of humanity if only for a bit.

In my opinion, find a way to join a beach club, get a timeshare or purchase a property if you so desire a nice beach getaway versus the public venues.

The Book Barn in Denville.
Lousy hours, TONS of books, wicked cheap prices.

that must be new, I moved out of Ocean City 25 years ago and hung up my board to take up sailing.

I believe they should be free (libre) but not free (gratis). Everyone should be able to access the beaches but it makes sense to collect some revenue since upkeep costs money. It should be no different than a state park.

Your whole idea hinges on the obligation to sell, which is a stupid idea and will not work because of huge potetioal for abuse.

Yes, especially during the holidays! That Sunday off during my many years at GSP helped keep me sane.

so everyone lists an amount that would make it worth selling it for and the tax rate gets based on that amount..

So if everyone declares their house to be 'worth' 100% more than they paid for it, (and if I was offered double, I'd move) the tax basis is reduced to the same bill amount per property...You could also just make primary residences excluded....

I'm quite used to the current system. You probably won't convince me to change this.

Good luck trying to convince all the teens and 20somethings who are all in the 3-day work week/ work from home crowd, too. They certainly aren't going to be physically working in the shops, nor will they leave home to shop as long as they can pay others to bring things to them.

rickels had whole house kits - my grandfather built a house from one in the 90s, and it’s still standing lol

Nope. A state over, in fact; just visited Middlesex area a lot because both grandparent sets were around there as was extended family. But we lived close enough that most of the stores were the same. But yeah, almost guaranteed to be the same Frank's.

There is no reason for beaches to not be free for at least NJ residents. I used to live in San Diego and all the beaches are free and the lifeguards are full time careers. Not teenagers with a summer job. The beaches there are garbage free as well so when the state says “yeah but” I call bullshit.

>if someone offers you that amount, you gotta sell it to them.

So if your house costs 400k and tomorrow I tell you "here is 400k, I buy it, move out" you gotta do it? Such a nice idea...

There's also a sizable Polish American population that lives in Clark that hold similar views. It's not even just the racism. I grew up in Clark and the people that live there, in general, are just nasty and hateful. Couldn't leave that town soon enough.

Justification is "Fuck you, I'm rich".

First you have to get ON the beach😬

California has coastline of 840 miles, beaches visited by ~130 million people per year. NJ has coastline of 130 miles, visited roughly by ~48 million people per year.

• California has 150,000 visits per mile, NJ has 370,000 visits per mile (246% more)
• California has 3.3 beach visits per state citizen, NJ has 5.3 beach visits per citizen (160% more)

So NJ beaches are 246% more packed and it happens 160% more often that in CA.

But it's probably mostly because of the culture of boroughitis. NJ towns surely love to behave like city-states in medieval Italy.

Not "informal"
https://theshoreblog.com/ocean-city-beach-information/
"Additionally, surfing is permitted on beaches south of 36th Street where lifeguard stands are 3 blocks apart. Surfing is permitted at all beaches either before or after lifeguards are on duty."

No

It may be that California has a density of 251 people per sq mile and Jersey has a density of 1,260 people per sq mile, not including the tourists coming from NY and PA on any given summer weekend.

Jersey beaches are also way more crowded and have more obnoxious individuals who do not care about trashing the place.

Heinlein had an idea.

Let everyone declare their own figure for value of their property, and pay taxes accordingly to their valuation.

Trick is, - if someone offers you that amount, you gotta sell it to them.