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TheFrogWife t1_jd9vn80 wrote

These orders have no teeth, if a piece of paper could stop a person from hurting another we'd have pretty advanced paper armor by now

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bruisescold OP t1_jd9wwnq wrote

*Update- they found the bodies this afternoon.

Pertinent information from the article:

"Vancouver man is accused of violating a no-contact order with his girlfriend, among other allegations, in a December drive-by shooting case. Vancouver police say the woman and her 7-year-old daughter are also now missing.

..Warren is already charged in Superior Court with drive-by shooting, second-degree assault with a deadly weapon, gross misdemeanor harassment with bodily injury and two counts of fourth-degree assault, all under the domestic violence prong

...On Saturday, a friend reported that Melendez and her daughter were missing. She said she last saw Melendez on March 11 or 12. Warren had come to the friend’s apartment and taken custody of Layla, who had stayed there overnight. The friend said Melendez was unresponsive and partially clothed in Warren’s car, according to a probable cause affidavit.

..Prosecutors also noted he has a pending case for a 2017 homicide in Arkansas. Court records show he posted $250,000 bond in that case Dec. 13, 2017, the day after his arrest."

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N8CCRG t1_jda2ojx wrote

Replying to TheFrogWife (#2,309,271)

I can't speak for Washington's no-contact order, but restraining orders often aren't about "you aren't allowed to do X" they are "if anyone calls the police and reports that you are doing X, then the police will show up and have the legal authority to arrest you on the spot, no conversation or discussion necessary."

Of course, this comes down to how willing or unwilling the police are to enforce these laws, and that will vary widely from place to place, but that's true about every law.

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Elryc35 t1_jda824h wrote

Replying to bruisescold (#2,309,384)

>..Prosecutors also noted he has a pending case for a 2017 homicide in Arkansas. Court records show he posted $250,000 bond in that case Dec. 13, 2017, the day after his arrest."

The fact that a pending homicide charge is outstanding for over 5 years shows how broken the courts are in this country.

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Amrokmfc t1_jdab5aj wrote

Woman and her 7 year old daughter, and he's got a pending homicide case in Arkansas. This is likely tragic here.

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MRmandato t1_jdakh1f wrote

Replying to N8CCRG (#2,309,785)

NCOs in WA work exactly that way. You call, police arrive and the person is either arrested if they are there, or a warrant is posted if they are not there. A lot of DV NCOs are put by a judge/court and not by the victim, which of course is a problem far as reporting and enforcement.

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Remote-Ad-2686 t1_jdatbpn wrote

Legal orders are for those that obey the law. For the rest… it’s just another amplification to a charge.

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MRmandato t1_jdb6y9w wrote

Replying to gaslacktus (#2,310,754)

Thats not the issue here. Seriously and saying just distracts from the real issues present here. There no evidence police wrongdoing in enforcement played a factor. This is just reddit circle jerking on cop hate

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G0ldenTwink t1_jdbqryp wrote

Replying to MRmandato (#2,312,955)

This specific comment thread was about the enforcement of restraining orders/similar and is an issue, doesn’t have to be in direct relation to OP’s post. Stay in your lane if you don’t like the discussion.

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Ratnix t1_jdcewo4 wrote

Replying to the-il-mostro (#2,311,900)

Innocent until proven guilty.

The question really is, how was he able to leave the state? Even with presumed innocence, he should still be required to stick around the state the charges are in. And if she was able to get a restraining order on him, they should have been able to see that he had homicide charges in another state.

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