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magellan315 t1_ja8jeri wrote

Reply to comment by MeatsimPD in Israelis, Palestinians pledge to curb violence at Jordan meeting by Hiversitize

You made vague assertions about peace treaties. Anwar Sadat was killed by his own military for making peace with Israel. Jordan was weak and ineffective following their losses in 1967 and had to deal with the PLO in 1970, more commonly known as Black September. They also did not come to terms with Israel until 1994.

Meanwhile the major players; Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and several others continue to funding terrorists. Even to this day.

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MeatsimPD t1_ja8ig9h wrote

Reply to comment by spicytunaonigiri in Israelis, Palestinians pledge to curb violence at Jordan meeting by Hiversitize

> The deal would be 100% of the land area of the West Bank with land swaps to make up for the settlements.

Think for a moment about the practically of what you are asking: where is all this land going to come from ? Surely not where anyone is already living, otherwise Israel would have to displace the people there. That means it's going to be land that no one can live on or wants to live on.

Now think for a moment about why the settlers, most of whom have been there less than 50 years and some far less, are "too engrained" to be moved than people who have lived there for centuries?

I'd like a direct answer to both these questions please

>Israel uprooted 100% of its Gaza settlements in 2005 (and at the same time uprooted several WB settlements) and was rewarded with Hamas. If Gaza had become a democracy, it’s logical to presume settlements would have continued to be uprooted in the WB. But Gaza became a terror state and since the WB is much closer to Tel Aviv than Gaza, here we are.

You act as if nothing else happened since 2005. Israel and Egypt have actively blockades Gaza since 2005, people are not allowed to leave and are even shot if they approach the fence too closely. Think about that? Doesn't that sound more like a prison than anything else? You're forced to remain in this area and if you try to leave or even get too close to the border you're shot.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

Is it any wonder that people who are forcibly cut off from the rest of the world turned to violence? Honestly what did Israel expect to happen? For 2 million people to just sit quietly in a fenced off 140 square mile piece of land, doing nothing with their lives, never allowed to leave, always dependent on the graces of Israel and Egypt to decide whether or not food or medical supplies are allowed to be shipped in?

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