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spicytunaonigiri t1_ja8u20y wrote

Scholars disagree on when annexation is permissible. I would imagine you would side with the scholars against it and I would side with the scholars who support it. But it’s vague enough that you (and I) should avoid using absolute language

FYI, Israel has not annexed the WB other than East Jerusalem. It’s not even clear that it’s occupied since it’s not being occupied from any other nation. But certainly nations are permitted to occupy (if not annex) land held after a defensive war. I believe Israel should have annexed a buffer zone it deemed necessary for its defense in 1967 after the Arabs refused to negotiate and withdrawn from the rest. But hindsight is 20/20

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MeatsimPD t1_ja8twsl wrote

> Jerusalem has always been the capital of Israel East and West.

I mean... I understand that people feel that way but its not the truth of the matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Jerusalem

> Furthermore when Jordan controlled East Jerusalem they denied Israeli citizens access to the Western Wall. Any tourists who entered from Israel could not reenter Israel.

Which was obviously wrong but in no way justifies the occupation of the West Bank, settling Israeli Citizens in the West Bank, or annexing territory through force.

>As for the West Bank, when the Palestinians love their children as much as they hate Israel then they will have control over the West Bank.

This is some shit

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Blazerer t1_ja8ts7d wrote

Except, to just name one example, that it was widely documented that Israel target a building specifically containing The Associated Press and Al'Jazeera.. This is barely a year ago and somehow you've forgotten?

But you're just going to claim the building was actually filled with Hamas, despite Israel never providing any actual proof, they just pinky promise that Hamas was totally in the building. Just like they are in all those schools, daycare centers, school busses, grocery stores etc.

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magellan315 t1_ja8td4t wrote

Jerusalem has always been the capital of Israel East and West. Furthermore when Jordan controlled East Jerusalem they denied Israeli citizens access to the Western Wall. Any tourists who entered from Israel could not reenter Israel.

As for the West Bank, when the Palestinians love their children as much as they hate Israel then they will have control over the West Bank.

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MeatsimPD t1_ja8t12p wrote

>Territory C,.

I think its clear you've given up on attempting to make an argument for Israeli's behavior after its been shown to be inconsistent bullshit.

Just say how you really feel, I'm guessing something like "Arabs and Palestinians attacked Israel and Israel has every right to do whatever it wants in the West Bank regardless what the people living there before their occupation want"

Just say it

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needabiggerhammer t1_ja8sg0k wrote

Pretty much. Going to be a shit show.

Would be more interesting if the judges didn't know she was trans. Seeing it is a beauty contest I imagine part of the subjective scoring will be based on an unconscious "can I breed with her" factor (actually make babies, not just practice) and could unintentionally bias males judges regardless of their conscious openness to the concept.

Tangent, but that would be a fun research project. Does telling a male a woman is sterilized impact their perceived attractiveness? How about trans instead? How do the impacts compare?

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MeatsimPD t1_ja8s4yx wrote

Again,

If you don't trust them why are you building settlements outside your state's sovereign borders, surrounded by them, and in violation of international law.

>What's the justification for those settlements again? What's the justification for violating international law and annexing territory by force and settling your citizens outside of your sovereign borders

Your lack of response is so telling, its like part of you knows there is no justification but you want Israel to have that land for some perverse reason

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MeatsimPD t1_ja8rv7p wrote

East Jerusalem was never part of the State of Israel post 1948 but has been de-facto annexed by Israel since 1967.

>What further security justification is there for occupying the West Bank? What justification is there for settling Israelis citizens there

Still aren't answering the question, come on dude give me your justification for the conquest of the West Bank

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MeatsimPD t1_ja8r3vk wrote

> After turning over Gaza and the West Bank to the Palestinians

When was the West Bank ever turned over to the Palestinians. I'm getting the clear sign you'll just sat whatever random bullshit you can if it sounds good in the moment

>Palestinian school text books teach children that Jews are subhuman and should be killed.

Man sounds like good reason not to build settlements outside of your country's sovereign borders and surrounded by Palestinians.

What's the justification for those settlements again? What's the justification for violating international law and annexing territory by force and settling your citizens outside of your sovereign borders

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