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ViralViridae t1_j48177d wrote

> If the bodies in those mass graves remained untouched then there was no desecration.

Weird hill to die on lol. Like sure we’re just going to completely ignore your wishes and the rituals of your religion and throw you in a mass grave like garbage, where maybe they might identify a bone fragment from you. It’s totally not desecration though because some guy on Reddit said so. Like even though you’re Christian, other religions have very explicit death rites, and ignoring those is absolutely desecration to that person and throwing them in a mass grave is dehumanizing on top of it, even if to you the only thing that matters is the integrity of the body

> Being in a mass grave isn’t the kind of abuse Byrne feared. Hunter’s disrespect of Byrne’s wishes for his own body is quite clear.

So? I’m sure some of those buried in the mass grave by Christians did fear that they would be treated like garbage after they died and probably had clear wishes for what they wanted done with their bodies as well. The Christian’s disrespect for those they shoved in mass graves is quite clear.

> I just simply asked if Hunter was atheist. I think now, that I’ve received so many defensive replies, that he could well have been so.

You asked and then when someone asked how that was relevant chose to double down and claim that atheists were more likely to desecrate bodies. That’s not just “asking” so much as your own gross opinion. And so it’s not a defensive reply to call that out as being a a gross opinion not actually based on anything. It’s also funny you think you can draw the conclusion of a historical figures religion based on people arguing against your own dumbass opinion. But critical thinking and religion don’t really get along so no surprise there I guess lol.

> Being an atheist doesn’t mean one can’t be a moral person, but it is no guarantee that one is one either.

Kinda like Christians right? I’ve clearly shown they’re hardly moral, mass graves and all that

> And it is certainly in my experience likely that atheists will abuse theists.

There are religious countries today you can be killed in for being an atheist. There isn’t an atheist country you can be killed in for being Christian or any other religion. Its hilarious you can seriously type that out and think it’s anything close to true.

I’m also pretty sure based on how you write that any abuse you’re receiving from atheists is based on your personality and not religion lol. Or you’re just one of the many Christians with a persecution fetish. 🤷‍♀️

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UndesiredEffect t1_j47w67g wrote

But to only take the last 50 years worth of sightings and dismiss the rest doesn't make sense. Things have been seen in our skies since ancient times- it didnt start happening one day in the 50's.

Granted a lot of it was probably prosaic normal phenom that they didn't yet have the tools to understand, however there have been similar experiences with similar beings experienced in different parts of the world in different time periods. Not only that, but understanding the nature of our defense departments is basically: we won't say anything about anything unless we have decided it's more worthwhile to do so. They could have simply alluded to it being top secret technology, and that would have been the end of it. Heck, they've been saying since the 60-70's they have the technology to 'take ET home'. If you read Day After Roswell, by Colonel Corso, he's stated that the government basically gave this tech to private enterprise and told them to reverse engineer it and that the government would buy back whatever they made. Out of the hands of any law like FOIA, and still getting what they wanted.

Check out Lue Elizondo and AATIP. He was the director of the program and has gone on record about a great many things. His interview with Curt Jaimungal's Theory of Everything is a really good one to watch.

If another country has technology capable of the things that have been witnessed and caught on camera/radar, then I doubt they would be short-sighted enough to fly them brazenly and openly around our craft and systems in such ways as they have. It would not only negate any manner of surprise, but would also only encourage rapid technological development to counter said edge. And this technology could in an instant change the world.

Did you know that out of nearly 144* investigated sightings since 2004, the government could only positively identify one. That's incredible, given our capabilities especially in our own airspace.

Edit: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/ufo-report-government-can-t-explain-143-144-mysterious-flying-n1272390

"A senior U.S. government official said ahead of the report's release Friday that, "We have no clear indications that there is any nonterrestrial explanation for them — but we will go wherever the data takes us."(fair to say)

The official added: “We do not have any data that indicates that any of these unidentified air phenomena are part of a foreign collection program nor do we have any data that is indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary." (weird af to say from a US techological capabilities standpoint--basically saying they have no* evidence that these unidentified things in our airspace are from another country either)

Edit 2: Here's one article about the recent legislation passing that would allow many people to go on record regarding projects related to UAP.

I dont know if it's ET, but its certainly something intriguing. I invite skeptics to do what I did and spend time looking into it in earnest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/13/us/ufo-new-mexico-congress.html?smid=tw-share

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CaveatRumptor t1_j47v2m1 wrote

If the bodies in those mass graves remained untouched then there was no desecration. Being in a mass grave isn't the kind of abuse Byrne feared. Hunter's disrespect of Byrne's wishes for his own body is quite clear. I just simply asked if Hunter was atheist. I think now, that I've received so many defensive replies, that he could well have been so. Being an atheist doesn't mean one can't be a moral person, but it is no guarantee that one is one either. And it is certainly in my experience likely that atheists will abuse theists. The behaviour of some of the people who responded proves it.

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ViralViridae t1_j47qe18 wrote

Lmao. You’re taking like Christians don’t have a well established history of just throwing those they considered lesser into mass graves, including children. I don’t think those “strong injunctions” are half as strong as you’re pretending.

Actual source since you didn’t provide any to back up your dumbass claim about atheists.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_Laundries_in_Ireland

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/07/world/canada/mass-graves-residential-schools.html

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1098276649/u-s-report-details-burial-sites-linked-to-boarding-schools-for-native-americans

Kinda looks like the Christians are the ones who more commonly desecrate bodies to me. I eagerly await your examples of atheist groups doing it at the same scale across the world, you should be easily able to find some based on what you’ve claimed so far if it’s such a problem.

But I’m guessing you won’t respond to this

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themeatbridge t1_j47qcu0 wrote

It's like the birthday paradox. If you have 60 people in a room, it's almost guaranteed that two people will share a birthday. But if you are in that room, it's unlikely that you will share a birthday with anyone.

Likewise, in the vast universe, through all of time, it is almost certain that the conditions for life resulted in space-faring intelligence, and because spacetime is so big, it's even likely that two of those travelers crossed paths. It's likely happened many times.

But also because of the size of spacetime, it is extremely unlikely to ever cross paths with another space traveling species in our lifetime. In terms of odds, imagine the odds of a baby being born with a birthmark in the shape of the winning lottery numbers, and then divide those odds by the limit approaching infinity.

So yes it is absurd to suggest that a weird thing in the sky must be from another planet, when we know that there are other terrestrial people working on building covert flying machines trying to spy on us.

It would be like watching your roommate walk over to the thermostat and turn on the air conditioner, and then saying "Brrr, it just got chilly. Must be a ghost in here."

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