The guy is cold as ice

Okay, then we are in agreement. That's pretty much what my job is. I'm there for 12-14 hours. But on a normal day, I do maybe 3-4 hours of actual work. The rest of the time is spent on hobbies or scrolling until I find the end of the internet. But, that's what the job is.

The only thing oniony about this is that it makes me tear up

What an actual piece of shit

Then I'd pay you for ten and you can enjoy those extra five hours sticking around in case something comes up on your phone or the internet.

In every job I've ever had, that's pretty much how it goes.

What if you required me for ten hours of my time for a day, but you had only five hours of work for me to do, but you needed me to be there for those ten hours just in case other work came up? And what if I spent that extra five hours just doing whatever I wanted?

I'm probably not too far off. Sad part is I'm still the top performer in my group by a wide margin.

I actually think a lot of it is because others spend a lot of time trying to figure things out themselves instead of getting the information from someone who already knows it. The second I realize it's going to take me a long time to figure something out on my own I'm like "OK, who the hell can tell me how this works? I'm not wasting my time on this shit."

I'm a software developer.

If they are getting the job done to your needs, then you damn sure shouldn't be pissed.

I spend half my work day on reddit, Facebook, or working on hobbies, because my job has a lot of wait time built in. There is nothing else to do. My job is to be there, waiting for instruction. Would you be pissed if I was waiting and not pumping metrics?

I was careful to say “imply” and “follows from” so as to specifically avoid putting words in your mouth. I did not say that this is what you said, but that this is what it implies, or follows from your premises (explicitly or implicitly stated). I dont even know why you’re bringing up “to win a reddit argument” since we’re both communicating through the same medium for an exchange of ideas? Why is me responding to your thoughts on Reddit any different than you responding to mine?

If it isn’t clear, my philosophical problem was with you saying “we DO stop at red lights” [capitalized by me for emphasis] etc etc being included among these is that many people DON’T and it does not lead to tearing apart the fabric of society, which, uh, sounds like kind of a “exaggerating to logical extremes” to me.

Like I said though, it is my personal opinion that the whole “vaccine” requirement led to more division and harm in society than would have happened without such a mandate. We can argue and disagree about that (here on Reddit) certainly. But I’m also trying to point out the philosophical / logical problems with your argument that whatever ONE PERSON or ONE GROUP of people thinks is the thing that will better hold society together is therefore the right and moral thing to do, because they have determined as such.

Going back, I honestly dont know why people feel the need to make some personal attack about “just trying to win a Reddit argument.” We’re both human of course and thus feel the need for self-expression.

Edit: I also didn’t really follow your question about Kabul and Copenhagen if you’d be willing to expand. Was it cuz I brought of semantics of people mandating the jab being “criminal” being debatable on a semantic level? Or something else about those places in particular I didn’t catch? Or an old philosophical argument? Are you saying “potato-pohtahto” about “sacrifices that benefit society” and “that which is morally correct?” That one is another version of saying the other?

there must be hideous looking kids there

It’s the other way around. You’re projecting now.

Remember when he passed corporate tax cuts and the Koch Bros gave 500k to his campaign the next day, despite him not running again?

I misred your username and was like “no way Reddit let that through”

What?

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I believe you really like to put words in my mouth, exaggerate my statements to illogical extremes, all for the sake of attempting to win a Reddit argument. My point is not that any one act of obeying the rules or sacrificing for the greater good is what holds society together, but the totality of many behaviors. What makes Copenhagen Copenhagen and Kabul Kabul?

Paul Ryan once fell down the stairs. Witnesses said it took five minutes and he looked like a Slinky.

Wrong subreddit entirely. Interesting tho.

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I believe you just implied that Ecuadorian society is unlivable and non-functioning then? Or that in each act of disobeying the official laws, any individual who participates in their cultural norms is immoral? Because you have been to other countries that, quite frankly, are the minority of places in the world, where people follow traffic laws to the letter?

Do you see how this follows from what you are saying?

That's also a big part of what is killing the trucking industry.

This is the most asinine approach to teaching children about, consent, personal space and behavioural boundries that I have ever seen. :|

Yes, I’ve been to countries outside of my own. Following road rules is, in my opinion, a perfect example of what I’m talking about and how behaviors can tear a society apart and make it unlivable or they can help keep a society livable and functional. I’m working in Poland right now. Polish drivers take following the road rules to an extreme (except for speeding for some reason). I spend most of my time in Ecuador where driving is extremely dangerous.

Damn, capitalism really has you simping for corporate America.

Absolutely. Not the idea of such, but that you fit among the same category.

I also love (meaning find it hilarious) when people mention stopping at red lights as good little members of society. Have you never been to countries outside of your own?

I also think the amount of division and harm this caused to the “community” (even though the use of this word is a bit of a stretch at national/global scale) by which I’m sure you’re referring to YOUR nation or city or state exceeds the amount of good it might have done.

To be clear I don’t know that I agree with the “those who made us get the jab are criminals” but probably only over the semantics of the statement.

Exactly. They still don't deserve any awards, but I kinda wish the GOP would go back to their regularly scheduled bs. Not this new bs.