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DFG57 t1_j510r5t wrote

Yep. Also a former bartender here. If I served someone who was obviously drunk I could be held liable for what they did when they left the bar. But I believe there would have to be witnesses that the drunk was falling down or stumbling, slurring, etc. and I served them anyway. There was a regular customer who spent six months in jail after his sixth DUI and the night he got out he stumbled into the bar and asked for a scotch rocks. I told him I wasn't serving him because he was too drunk and he responded "No, it's OK. I quit driving." So he had his priorities all set.

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TheFirstUranium t1_j510ghd wrote

Legally you're correct, but bartenders don't exactly have the resources or legal authority to take people's keys or drive them home and put them to bed.

Dram shops laws establish liability in scenarios like this and as a rule, they're very old and haven't been updated in forever (think like prohibition). Many places they establish liability even when someone is responsibly served and later continues drinking.

I hate them. Legal liability for other people's actions should not exist.

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AngelsFire2Ice t1_j50zo8y wrote

That's what I'm saying, mag size limits are incredibly dangerous to hunters if they're hunting a boar, cuz it's not just the size of the bullet but if you can even hit it in the first place. I saw a video of an Italian hunter shooting one with shotgun slugs, only allowed a mag size of 3+1, shot all her shots at it and it was STILL charging her

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Kaiju_Cat t1_j50ulkt wrote

People who continue to serve someone who is in no condition to make a rational judgment alcohol for the purpose of profit deserve to be held liable for their grossly negligent actions. People like you pretend like that also somehow means that the person who drank the alcohol is now completely absolved of all responsibility.

No. Everyone involved was at fault to some degree. It's up to the courts to figure out exactly where that fault lies. A lot of people go through life thinking that fault is some kind of 100% 0% fault lies. A lot of people go through life thinking that fault is some kind of 100% 0% game.

And that's an absurdly childish and uselessly simplistic way of looking at things in a situation like this.

People hear that a company might be liable for gross negligence and they like to puff up their chest and act all self-righteous and loudly declare that no one is held responsible for their own actions anymore and it's just the dumbest shit.

Stop.

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