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deechbag t1_j5fifqi wrote

You're ignoring what the law states to say how you feel about the situation. If they're serving her responsibility and how the law states they should be, she wouldn't be getting drunk, at least not on their alcohol. I get that's not what actually happens irl and a bar that did that would be closed within a month or two but they're all leaving themselves open to some leagl liability should someone really want to go after them.

She shares most of the blame but potentially not all.

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deechbag t1_j5ffetb wrote

If she wasn't visably intoxicated, then why did they kick her out and cut her off? I agree with you, it'll be hard for her to prove they knowingly served her while intoxicated but by law, or at least in order to have a liquor license, staff must be trained to be able to spot someone intoxicated. I'm arguing just what the laws near me say, not what anyone thinks or what actually happens. Don't think I've ever heard of a bar or person being sued for this but they could be and I do agree with it. If you're serving alcohol, some of the responsibility lies with you in keeping people safe.

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bigsoftee84 t1_j5fb1wy wrote

All the server has to say is that they didn't look visibly intoxicated. It seems that you assume the person was visibly intoxicated, I'm not seeing that in the article. So, again, I'm having a hard time finding how the liability is on anyone other than the driver.

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Fast_Bodybuilder_496 t1_j5fa85h wrote

Your last sentence is the part that gets me the most- you don't have to be sloppy and slurring drunk to be dangerous behind the wheel of a car. Frankly, if legislators want to prosecute bartenders for over serving patrons and hold them accountable for whatever the patrons go on to do in their drunken state, they should just ban alcohol outright. I can't think of any other scenario in which we hold someone legally accountable for another adult's consensual actions outside of committing a crime.

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Astroglaid92 t1_j5f9ly3 wrote

It’s not a valid excuse, but the vast majority of cities and towns in the US were designed with the intention that most transportation would happen via private vehicles. Public transportation is neglected, and accommodations for pedestrian access are poor or non-existent. It’s so bad that apparently the fatality rate for walking home drunk is worse than for driving home drunk.

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waltsnider1 t1_j5f8fg9 wrote

Who's resorting to calling names?
And I would argue that it matters everywhere. Just because you treat this as someplace that's casual doesn't mean everyone else does. Not only are you showing your level of intelligence, but you are also showing your level of empathy toward those who are trying to help you.

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raichiha t1_j5f87bo wrote

Its not that i misspelled, i used the wrong form because i wasn’t really putting much thought into it. I’m aware of the different forms of there, they’re, & their, which one is possessive which one is a contraction, etc. its just not that serious here.

Again, you contributed nothing but being a douche.

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