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DontMakeMeCount t1_j5gqnv1 wrote

Reply to comment by tardcore101 in A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

Is it a subrogation thing by any chance? Insurers usually reserve a contractual right to sue in your name to recover payments they make on your policy. Often, when you see a story about someone suing a family member it’s the insurer filing the suit. Just wondering if there are insurance companies out there suing bartenders for their customers’ drunk driving.

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paulmarchant t1_j5gpf3b wrote

Reply to comment by Acceptable_Wall4085 in How do you like that? Man farts during police strip search, given 75 hours unpaid work by zfreakazoidz

The article is poorly and vaguely written, like so much of our newspaper output here.

It doesn't say that he got the 75 hours 'for' farting at a policeman - and I'd struggle to say what specific offense it would be, and - in order to be sentenced for the farting it would need to be an articulable, specific crime.

But he crashed a car - which isn't an offense in and of itself - and then blazed a joint in front of the police, which of course is.

If I were ascribing more intelligence to him than perhaps he deserves, I could contrive that he was driving stoned (which is considered a serious offense, particularly in light of the crash), and he concluded that by smoking in front of the police, he could claim that he was not stoned whilst driving, but that he became so afterwards. There's nothing to gain from the police doing a post-accident drug test under those circumstances as it won't fly in court for a drug-driving charge.

More likely though, he was just a belligerent bell-end and got what was coming.

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ghengiscostanza t1_j5gp668 wrote

Reply to comment by afunyun in A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

> she's not suing because they over-served her. She's suing because they STOPPED serving her

You’re kinda deliberately framing that wrong with this quoted part and I feel like you know that. Over-serving is central to it, they had already over-served her.

They invited a guest to drive to their venue and park in their parking, then sold her their alcohol until she was out of her mind, then when she was peak hammered they said ok get out of here right now!

People get mad about this because they think “it’s her fault what about personal responsibility” but think about it from society/the people in the damaged neighborhood’s point of view. Sure that individual idiot deserves blame and punishment and liability but what about this big corporate entity undeniably enabling and arguably encouraging idiots to do this, they surely should answer at least in part for bringing this shit to the neighborhood.

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westborneastbred t1_j5go1rx wrote

Reply to comment by TheHighWarlord in A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

I’m sure the bar will get there’s. Cause bars have to follow laws and most countries and states and places are strict on alcohol related offenses. But this lady should not be able to shuck what she did to the bar. Not in this suit

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westborneastbred t1_j5gnuph wrote

Reply to comment by TheHighWarlord in A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

I wasn’t stating you. I was speaking of many are focusing on the bars responsibility in this, which we can debate, the law will handle that. The debate for me is she is suing to shuck responsibility in her part and that’s my point. She is suing to give someone else the blame instead of her, which was the active participant. The law will take care of that bar. But her suing is her saying she think that she has no fault in this. And that is the absurd part for me. I’m not debating the law. I’m debating her audacity for a law suit to say that the bar is the reason she drove their and did this so they should pay. The bar may have the legal responsibility to stop serving her. But she was 100 percent at fault for the 12 million in damage she did

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Dmackman1969 t1_j5ghi3c wrote

Reply to A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

Bar owner, she will win that case, the establishment that over served her AND kicked her out of the establishment will lose this case, t liquor license and their business.

Laws are very clear if you over serve the business has a responsibility to ensure she does not drive. The bartender will also be liable as well.

Personal responsibility does not come into play with liquor laws.

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