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Spartan05089234 t1_j6tybc4 wrote

Nah I can easily believe that lawyers would sue anyone or anything claiming to replace them.

Source: Am lawyer. Licensing of notaries, paralegals, advocates, is always contentious. Lawyers don't just argue the law, in most cases they've written in. More baked in than doctors, and try fuck with them.

On the upside, cheaper legal services via AI. On the downside, won't be that much cheaper because professional liability insurance and you lose the ability to work between the lines, make an emotional appeal, etc. A robo lawyer arguing a family law custody case will probably not be as effective as a robo lawyer arguing a debt collection case. But if I can ask an AI to research caselaw instead of doing searches myself, great.

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bonzombiekitty t1_j6tvwr0 wrote

The guy who runs it seems to be a fraud. There's a good twitter thread with KathrynTewson (a really good paralegal) who went through the DonotPay system to submit a few things to see what she would get. Several of them never generated anything at all and the ones that did generate were obviously nothing more than filling out a template; no AI needed.

She then got into it with the CEO, who banned her account after changing the terms of service. While Kathryn exposed his lie and document forging in regards to making donations.

ETA: DonotPay has since shut down its legal document AI services to focus on "consumer rights"

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American_Stereotypes t1_j6tuag3 wrote

That's partially why I'm so concerned. This tech will almost certainly be disproportionately used by people who are either unable to afford a real lawyer or who are distrustful of the legal system and lawyers, and those kinds of people are already extremely vulnerable and have a hard time navigating the legal system, even without shoddy unregulated technology supposedly helping them.

I'm sure we'll get to the point where this isn't a pipe dream one day, but that day ain't today, and in the meantime it could do a lot of damage to a lot of people, even in something as generally low-stakes as traffic court.

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