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aviciiavbdeadpunk t1_jdb020t wrote

still getting gapped by a 90s civic on the belt parkway and jackie robinson

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Pohara521 t1_jdbbvo2 wrote

What exactly is the need for this in sunset park/Windsor terrace?

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smooth_rubber_001 t1_jdbch4z wrote

Saw one passing by Chinatown 8th Ave… was so jelly of the cops driving it. I want one badly! Lol

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Solid_Angel t1_jdbhczt wrote

I just don't understand the point of this specific car as a marked police vehicle.

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woodcider t1_jdbkb7c wrote

But if they have to charge them they can’t park them on the sidewalk. Whatever will we do?

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iliveoffofbagels t1_jdbl5ad wrote

Replying to SnooDingos1760 (#2,313,617)

probably the only thing wrong with it is the awkwardly painted side skirt area below the doors. In this picture, depending on your screen settings, it kinda just looks like someone kicked and crumpled a bit of the car lol.

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stevenharms t1_jdbo7bn wrote

Can’t wait to see one parked in the bike lane!

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yasth t1_jdc389q wrote

Replying to Solid_Angel (#2,313,804)

Electric makes a lot of sense for a NYC police car, they often don't go 30 miles in shift, and they already are mostly using explorers which are about the same size.

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icrbact t1_jdc6x0b wrote

Replying to Solid_Angel (#2,313,804)

No local emissions in a dense urban area is a really big deal especially as these cars are running through most of the day (even when they are standing). I assume they chose the Ford because because that’s already their main supplier of police vehicles and will make service and maintenance a lot easier than getting them from another manufacturer.

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Any_Foundation_9034 t1_jdc9gom wrote

Going to be fun watching one of these babies respond to a crime if there should be a critical failure msg after an OTA update. <<Those who know, know.

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yeezusbro t1_jdcb9td wrote

Am I crazy or are there No door handles?

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Solid_Angel t1_jdcc5i4 wrote

Replying to Solid_Angel (#2,313,804)

Thanks for your replies.

After a bit of quick research and some past reading, completely forgot I read about this a year ago, Ford no longer has a "sedan" segment.

So it makes sense, and of course NYPD are getting these cars at discounted rates, so pretty sure the $45k tag isn't what they are paying, feel free to correct if I'm wrong here.

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yasth t1_jdcdhhk wrote

Replying to actualtext (#2,315,846)

I mean the explorer is bigger in every dimension https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/ford-mustang-mach-e-2021-suv-vs-ford-explorer-2019-suv/ I was just trying to give a general reference. Truthfully it would slot between the escape and the explorer. The explorer is basically the standard nypd “car" now though https://www.curbed.com/2022/10/nypd-all-suv-fleet-ford.html so it seemed a good reference.

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jp_in_nj t1_jdcfffw wrote

Pretty enough, but what's the point in it when you can't get anywhere faster than 10 mph?

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RamWarr t1_jdchcap wrote

I wanna see the police in Flintstone cars.

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augsav t1_jdchg4w wrote

I saw a black one of this using it’s sirens the other day. I guess they have a whole fleet. They also have (at least) one unmarked Maserati.

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simpbizkit420 t1_jdckkma wrote

What a necessary thing that this city needed to spend it’s money on…

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Die-Nacht t1_jdckzft wrote

Electric NYPD cars don't make much sense, this all just feels like greenwashing. If they get into a crash, you would need to scrap the entire car as the battery may be damaged. EVs are also more expensive than ICE cars.

We need the NYPD to move away from cars altogether and use smaller modes of mobility. Most police work isn't chasing down people on highways or transporting people, so why do they need so many large cars? Just give every department like 20 e-bikes for every car, only keep a couple of cars per precinct for people transport.

Not only would it increase police efficiency (no traffic restriction), but it would also open up the NYPD to be more empathetic and better at policing. Being in a protected, metal box leads to a disassociation from the surrounding space and people (you may as well be in a private house, not a public space). This has been shown to lead people to become less empathetic (this is also why perfectly normal people can sometimes become lunatics behind the wheel). We don't want police officers that don't feel part of the place they are patrolling, that's how you end up with afraid, trigger-happy officers.

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Grass8989 t1_jdclm7t wrote

Replying to Die-Nacht (#2,316,773)

You should join the NYPD and advocate for this! Also, the NYPD had the least amount of police related shootings of any major department in this country, they’re not going around doing drive-bys.

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IAmGoingToSleepNow t1_jdcm4to wrote

Replying to yasth (#2,315,152)

Yup. Plus police spend a lot of time idling, where EVs excel. Very little battery use during that time instead of wasting fuel and engine wear. The other big gain is in stop and go traffic, the other place where police spend a fair amount of time.

Lower maintenance should end up costing less with less downtime and fewer cars out of service.

Everyone wants to hate, but if the cars need to be replaced, EV is the way to go. I bet it ends up costing less than buying new gas cars in the long run.

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FLHCv2 t1_jdcnn73 wrote

NYPD POLICE

NEW YORK POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICE

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shant_jan t1_jdcodnd wrote

the parks department has one too. im guessing that Ford is practically giving them away to establish the brand in people's minds.

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Daddy_Macron t1_jdcppbb wrote

Replying to Sum1LightUp (#2,314,370)

These are probably money savers in the long-run. Less maintenance and way less energy wasted when idling which is 90% of a cop's day. When I idled for an hour in an EV with the AC blasting, it used up less than 2% of the battery. Doing it in a gas car would have used up 0.5-1 gallon of gas.

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Edwunclerthe3rd t1_jdcqbjn wrote

Replying to FLHCv2 (#2,317,037)

Don't forget the city part -New York City Police Department police. Alternatively, City of New York Police Department police. Just wait until they have a unit specifically for city affairs: City of New York Police Department city police. Or, when that goes wrong and those officers have to be investigated: City of New York Police Department city police police

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Daddy_Macron t1_jdcqxhk wrote

Replying to clientsoup (#2,317,085)

At a certain point we should actually try to get our money's worth because it seems like the DOE does a terrible job of actually producing results, especially the Administrative staff that is just bloated at this point.

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Daddy_Macron t1_jdcrnlr wrote

Replying to Die-Nacht (#2,316,773)

> If they get into a crash, you would need to scrap the entire car as the battery may be damaged.

If you get to the point where the crash damages the battery, it would have probably scrapped an equivalent internal combustion car as well. Fender benders don't take EV's out of commission and the battery pack is usually built into the structure that to damage it, you'd have to damage the car at a structural level.

>EVs are also more expensive than ICE cars.

Upfront, but the cost of operations is more important to an organization that uses them nearly everyday. Lower cost of energy and less maintenance alone will save more than the additional purchase price.

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huebomont t1_jdct496 wrote

Draining taxpayer money on toys.

Make them get the most boring uncool sedans imaginable. Make them wear goofy uniforms. Make them feel like the employees that they are, not some rogue army.

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Grass8989 t1_jdctr5j wrote

Replying to huebomont (#2,317,737)

I’m glad you’re an expert on police fleets and replacement time lines! Do you know how much money they would save by not having a gas engine idling nearly 24/7 as many of these vehicles do?

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phuz t1_jdcvdai wrote

I saw a model 3 one a few months ago. Aren’t they still in the testing phase of using ev.

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Draymond_Purple t1_jdcxu9y wrote

Replying to SnooDingos1760 (#2,313,617)

It also makes a ton of sense for fleet vehicles to be electric - they always go back to the same parking lot/yard.

Why municipal fleet vehicles weren't some of the first vehicles to go electric has always been confusing to me

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Daddy_Macron t1_jdcybhj wrote

Replying to Rottimer (#2,318,150)

Battery degradation isn't that big an issue since EV battery packs aren't like your phone battery and have active battery management systems to keep batteries at the optimal temperature and current. (Except the Nissan Leaf. Those EV's have issues with battery longevity.) Just about all major EV manufacturers offer 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranties for a reason.

Most cop cars are just sitting still for basically the whole day and they're not in use 24/7/365. Incorporating slow charging into them sitting at a corner for half a day would be a breeze. This city is already building out curbside chargers. My neck of the woods got 3 stations with 6 charging cables and the cops in the neighborhood can just change where they idle their car by a block or two if they need a charge.

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oy_says_ake t1_jdcyz2k wrote

When we do buy cop cars, they should 100% be electric.

That said, we should stop replacing them so fast. Currently we replace them every 3 years! Make that 7 at least.

Edit: A way higher % of officers should be walking beats instead of driving anyways.

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huebomont t1_jdd1lmm wrote

Replying to Grass8989 (#2,317,801)

Less than they would by not replacing a car, purchasing a less flashy model, or maybe not IDLING THEIR ENGINES 24/7(?!)!) lol. Their fleet is huge and part of the problem of why you never see cops actually walking a beat.

Nowhere did I mention that EVs are better than gas engines. Reddit loves a strawman!

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King9WillReturn t1_jdd3au7 wrote

Replying to Edwunclerthe3rd (#2,318,707)

As of 2022 that is correct.

In the US:

Toyota Sienna (Princeton, Indiana)
Toyota Sequoia (Princeton, Indiana)
Toyota Highlander (Princeton, Indiana)
Toyota RAV4 Hybrid (Georgetown, Kentucky)
Toyota Camry (Georgetown, Kentucky)
Toyota Avalon (Georgetown, Kentucky)
Toyota Tacoma (San Antonio, Texas)
Toyota Tundra (San Antonio, Texas)
Toyota Corolla (Blue Springs, Mississippi)

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specialcommenter t1_jdd6pi3 wrote

Replying to augsav (#2,316,386)

Whoever’s Maserati you saw was a Hatzolah ambulance service for Jewish people. Those guys get official sirens and lights for any car to serve religious Jewish patients. The cars belong to the doctors.

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NyteBladeV1 t1_jddc2lq wrote

It's all fun and games until someone unplugs them all

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salpn t1_jddi45u wrote

We'd be better off in terms of making NYC safer if those were electric bicycles rather than electric cars.

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Bkgrouch t1_jddlpkr wrote

Lol is it self driving? You know so they can still be on the cell phone? 😆

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The_Lone_Apple t1_jdegeok wrote

Replying to Grass8989 (#2,323,027)

Okay, so I said what I said and it stands. Billions for some while libraries close is not a good balance. Oh, if cops could start being more polite to the people who pay their salary it would be great too. Get on that.

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wikipuff t1_jdfaitv wrote

God I hate what they have done to the Mustang.

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PorchHonky t1_jdfeg2b wrote

Cool! Those will be really comfy to sit in and watch 800 motorcycles race down broadway on a sunny day!

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PurpleGoatNYC t1_jdflfyt wrote

I despise the NYPD, but a tiny bit good on them for buying all electrics and hybrids. It’s one of the very rare good things they do.

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wile_tex t1_jdg4o0q wrote

Saw one for the first time in sunset park the other day. Tried to talk to the cop about it, but he essentially told me to fuck off in so many words.

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sleepless______ t1_jdi43tx wrote

Replying to Interesting-Mud7499 (#2,336,848)

Not really, no. Your originally assertion that if they stop motorcycles racing down the street they’d be called racist is obviously nonsense.

But if your claim is that doing absolutely any enforcement means you’ll get attacked as a racist then why wouldn’t everyone just quit? Seems like an awful job. And yet plenty are staying in their jobs.

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Interesting-Mud7499 t1_jdi6mr5 wrote

Replying to sleepless______ (#2,336,988)

It's not nonsense if it's actually happened. Furthermore they're accused by those with a hand in the motorcycle/ATV groups as having nothing better to do when other violent crimes are happening across the city.

But guess what, people do actually quit. There is an attrition issue affecting the NYPD right now due to a myriad of factors; hostile climate being one of them. As cited on resignation interviews.

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Dutch1206 t1_jdih68b wrote

Replying to Interesting-Mud7499 (#2,336,436)

There's a return on investment for a population that has higher levels of education and it also, in theory, should reduce crime. So it makes sense that the budget for education is larger than the NYPD. That's not to say that the education budget isn't bloated, but I'd prefer a larger proportion of my tax dollars being used to educate the populace rather than police it.

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Interesting-Mud7499 t1_jdiibzm wrote

Replying to Dutch1206 (#2,338,412)

Not doubting that. But consider the fact that DOE funding is at an all time high with more than a 10% drop in enrollment. Academic performance citywide is also something that should be examined. DOE is full of its own issues.

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