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in Queens, that would be "Don't poop on the street" Ave, Rd, Dr & St

Someone on the /r/news thread said "NYC Council really in a competition with SF school board for most embarrassing municipal entity." lol

Oh I agree with you 100%. I didn't mean to sound like I'm discounting the rise of BHI and NOI talking points in liberal circles. At all. You're more than correct in pointing it out. They're doing a great job of filtering their message through the lens of "Black empowerment". Which I think is so wrong and predatory, because they know the challenges faced by Black Americans, historically and cultural (we won't dive into everything here as I'm sure we're probably equally well-read on the subject) and they prey on their longing for a sense of community to influence and infiltrate.

Also, I know what you mean regarding the "truther" comments and questions. I try to see where it's coming from and if it's true ignorance and curiosity, I educate. I know it's not our "responsibility" but I feel like we should. Just because there's so much information and Jews sometimes tend to be insular and that can be seen as "hiding something" to an outsider. That's just my perspective though.

And you're right, in that we must guard against legitimate concerns being highjacked by people with nefarious intentions. Honestly I look at the anti-Zionist/Jew movement on the extreme Left (and creeping into some more mainstream circles) and pro-Zionism on the Right as a war between extremist White and Black nationalists. Both use Jews as a pawn in their ideology but in truth don't really care about us as a people, per se.

Like the Right wing Christian extremists who only support Israel because 1. there are White Jews/racism against a majority Brown people, although there are also White Palestinians (but the perception is otherwise). 2. They think Jesus is the messiah and will only return if Israel has been established. 3. They think Jewish people will be forcefully "saved by the Gospel".

Just a thought. What do you think? I know I kinda took it in another direction but I'm curious.

Next we’re gonna have Andrew tate blvd or Logan paul ave type shit 😂😂😅😂😅

Are there really no other overnight youth homeless shelters?

People do not want to live next to homeless shelters, and not without reason.

>I do want to caution against the motion that anyone who isn't a Jew that's anti-Zionism, is somehow antisemitic

Oh no worries I'm fully aware of this. What gives me caution is my own previous experiences with people who aren't aware of how these thoughts morph, and my own personal conversations that I've had with friends who have said anti-Zionist sentiments without realizing that they're teetering on antisemitism and don't realize that they're not fully aware of the whole situation - which makes sense, since we're halfway around the world from Israel! And as a person who doesn't have any ties to Israel, it's understandable that this comes from ignorance and not maliciousness.

I would caution you about the rise of NoI and BHI sentiments however...These sorts of talking points have been cycling around for decades now and even within liberal circles. I had a really sad conversation a few weeks back where my friend essentially wanted me to 'prove that I'm the real Jew', whatever that means. These talking points I would argue are unaligned with political beliefs, making them more dangerous.

For reasons that are obvious to anyone living near a large homeless population, people do not want to live near homeless shelters.

Claiming a shelter will only be a drop in shelter, and then trying to pull one over on the neighborhood by changing its categorization, is unacceptable.

As a person of color, it isn't any better. It's actually pretty fucking embarrassing to tell you the truth. You've hit the nail on the head. Elijah Muhammad was created by the ideology of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis, but he's cut from the same cloth and would have likely engaged in retaliatory actions had he had the power to do so. This is TERRIBLE as a NY'er. I'm surprised there wasn't more uproar. This is why history is important. People might not really know who he is.

I used to live next to a drop in center in Staten Island. It was drop in, explicitly not a place people were allowed to sleep because voters/politicians would barely allow that, they really say/think, "There are no homeless Staten Islanders."

As I understand it there was one 'good chair' where they turned a blind eye if you needed to sleep for a while. But, there were frequently conflicts outside the place because someone slept longer than they should have, or at a different time, eating into someone else's sleep.

I know the issue is complicated but I really saw people knock each others' teeth out because they just wanted some rest.

You’d think “progressives” would see how dire of an issue this is. Their silence is complicity.

I'm Jewish but I'm pretty anti-Zionist (as it pertains to the geopolitical aspect and humanity crisis there currently), as are some major Jewish sects (including here in NYC and in Israel, was wild as it sounds). That being said, there definitely is a small minority in the left that is anti-Jewish. I share your hesitation as well with self identifying, because often times my appearance sometimes makes people feel comfortable saying borderline comments and I have to check them. So I completely understand your "pause for cause".

The NOI and Black "Hebrew Israelites" can hardly be called leftists though, just based on what I know of their ideology. It's very conservative in nature. Mainstream leftism is very pro-minority and pro-Jewish, however within the extremes there's ALWAYS an issue. Although, I'd argue they're Right Wingers, just unaligned with the Republicans, unless someone has a better understanding of their politics (I'm genuinely interested, I'm not being snarky).

I do want to caution against the motion that anyone who isn't a Jew that's anti-Zionism, is somehow antisemitic. The two concepts are not mutually exclusive, although great marketing by the Zionist lobby tries to link the two. I think there's a way to be anti-Israel, as it currently exists (either from a religious perspective or a human rights perspective), and still be pro-Jewish people.

do you apply vaseline around your mouthe when you're done huffing industrial solvents for the day or just let the sores heal naturally

I’m someone who has experience with the Ali Forney Center. There is literally nowhere else for young LGBTQ people, especially trans people, to go to be safe overnight in a last minute basis crisis for shelters. As someone who has been at the drop in center several, several times, and have witnessed my peers who have used this as a life saving option, there needs to be an alternative and more communication. This will have dire consequences if we are just expected to figure it out ourselves. Ali Forney is one of the best, safest spaces for LGBTQ+ people in NYC and it’s because of them that I am on my way to being out of homelessness. Yes, I agree there should be some regulations with these spaces and there should be more communication between these centers and the law to figure out an adequate solution, but this is not the answer. This will kill young queer people, which is why the center was created in the first place: in the legacy of Ali Forney, who was killed on the streets in Harlem and who found solace in this same drop in center.

The lack of oversight into NYC shelters is staggering. And the silence of our “progressive” advocates is complicit.

A typical congregate shelter cost the city over 5k per bed per month. And we are still building new shelters that are even more expensive.

And at the same time, their conditions are so bad that people who stay in a NYC shelter are more likely to die than people who stay at Riker’s.

>Irrelevant

If they were going to hit jon targets, which your confident in, they weren't going to get tax breaks. So it should have zero effect on your decision

You can't have it both ways - they aren't going to bring many jobs and also be upset about a tax break they wouldn't get > Save 100s of millions vs private sale

How is that exactly, the private landowners we're giving Amazon discounts on the land ? The workers were going to do labor for free ?

Other states have been ripping away jobs and development from the northeast through tax incentives and already existing lower taxes .

This has been a trend for many many years , it was only accelerated by the pandemic.. companies had back offices in tax and lower cost / regulatory states ...talent pool was expanding, remote was already happening prepandenic

Office occupancy was much worse than let in, we work, spaces etc occupied a lot of space

But hey y'all are getting what you want fangmula is pulling back on office space

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Exactly. It makes Coney Island Hospital look like a dream vacation home.

You’re being downvoted, but you’re right

All of the stuff named after confederates has been around for a long time and we are actively phasing those out. This is happening today in modern times, that’s definitely a problem

You put only one > not two. Two is for nesting quotes. See:

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>A reply to the original comment

My reply to the reply.

What I typed

Hey, how about fixing up the other parts of the BQE not surrounded by millionaires?

Maimonides' CEO Kenneth Gibbs saw his compensation skyrocket from $1.8 million to $3.2 million from 2019 to 2020, when the worst of the COVID-19 pandemic rocked the facility, according to not-for-profit financial records filed with the IRS. -NY Post

Them having been built is kind of irrelevant to this deal, unless at the time you were able to tell the future. Part of why they haven't been built, yea is there was a global pandemic that totally shifted the way everything is done.. companies are leaving at an increased rate now because of something unexpected that happened afterwards, that's irrelevant to the point in that context.. and again my point is they didn't care about or need the tax break. So yea they planned a few thousand new jobs, not to get the tax break, but would still save hundreds of millions of dollars vs if they tried to purchase the land in a private sale.. as they and others have done across the country numerous times now, the tax breaks don't matter because they almost never actually reach the proposed goal.