I remember taking a philosophy of Judaism, Christianity and Islam class in undergrad and the professor tried to simplify it by basically saying old testament was original and new testament was revision 1 that some people accepted and last testament was revision 2 that some people accepted. Needless to say I learned next to nothing from that class but still got an A.

Just dispute the charge

I think people would likely come back if they have actual offices instead of the open office panopticon.

BINGO. Path of least resistance, for them. They'll come around in time.

Jesus I didn’t need to see that.

They’re trying to figure out how to mandate by law that everyone has to go into the office

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I may be naive, but there is so little “manufacturing” left in the neighborhood, and the climate now is very different now than it was in the past, so I think they’ll ultimately allow more residential.

Seriously, also a lot of conversions after 9/11.

Garment District also has manufacturing zoning, so you've got to go beg the City Council. We've seen how that turns out.

we are whatever enough of us vote to be. fly the red flag high comrade

no but really nationalizing them is too much work. remove tax incentives for office buildings, fix the zoning and regulatory issues with conversions. after that the business owners can make their own decisions. if its keeping buildings we dont particularly need at a loss, thats kinda their business. but dont reward them for it

Most food spots still close at 4pm/5pm in FiDi. It's still a ghost town after the 9-5. The businesses here refuse to adapt and make an attempt to service the few people who actually live here.

I just said fuck the Nation of Islam lol where did I say they should get a street sign? Fuck Elijah Muhammad and Farrakhan

I think it’s important to name who correctly killed this man.

Here’s Malcolm X family suing bc FBI and NYPD had people there at the speech AND knew he was about to be murdered

This is in addition to them having informants in the nation. I think a lot of people do not understand Contelpro or the extent in which the FBI was involved in assassinating radical black leaders and destroying movements

Lol I first read this as "Two Brothers" and though it was about the pizza joint chain...

They can keep wishing and praying things go back to the status quo pre-covid but it's not happening. At the very least these owners could reduce the rent significantly to make it easier for large and small offices to get smaller amounts of space. They won't even do that.

So why are we taking these people seriously when they won't even make the most basic choices to lure people back to office spaces, if they truly don't think conversion is an option?

Disput the charge with your credit card provider. They will handle it.

Midtown would flourish with more permanent residents.

They won't do it if the economic value isnt' there. We should examine where there are opportunities to reduce the costs of making these conversions happen, especially if there's no tangible impact from reducing the regulations.

My point was more there are plenty of places where most thought “x place sucks I’m never going to live there” and now it’s not necessarily the same thought.

Has anyone come across an apartment listing of a recently converted office space? I'd be curious to see the final product.

the priority should not be for it to be a great option. they made a bet we would want office buildings and we dont. thats capitalism lol. cut the subsidies tax breaks etc for office buildings we dont need and they can decide to convert it and make some money, or make no money.

Garment District has a fair number of buildings that would be suitable for conversion into two-per-floor or floor-through units. Hope to see it happen. It’s a great location that just needs more residents.

I did. But it was removed because I didn’t add the location as NYC. So needed to resubmit. Thanks for you advice.

Yep! I lived in one of those buildings in the very early 00s. It was fine. Clearly redone as quickly and cheaply as possible. Fugly parquet floors.

Lol. Yeah, like, just tell us which curb they'll be left out at. I'll swing by with my hatchback.