I'll copy my reply here too:

>Arguing that it isn't assault because the offense isn't named "___ assault" in NY is pedantic.

It's not pedantic.

It's actually quite relevant to this news, because they are proposing changes to assault when committed against retail works.

They are not proposing changes to offenses that are not assault under NY Law.

>Arguing that it isn't assault because the offense isn't named "___ assault" in NY is pedantic.

It's not pedantic.

It's actually quite relevant to this news, because they are proposing changes to assault when committed against retail works.

They are not proposing changes to offenses that are not assault under NY Law.

Copying my response to your other reply:

>While they are not labeled "assault", there are various different offenses that fall under that same article you listed that don't require injury.

>Arguing that it isn't assault because the offense isn't named "___ assault" in NY is pedantic.

While they are not labeled "assault", there are various different offenses that fall under that same article you listed that don't require injury.

Arguing that it isn't assault because the offense isn't named "___ assault" in NY is pedantic.

People always talk about how they want more small businesses to survive but don’t protect them. Shoplifting is so much more harmful to these delis & small businesses than the big chains. Should be protecting them

the cops literally have their own lawyers that handle these cases. a friend of mine worked for them.

This was a completely peaceful protest until cops came in on bikes and started beating the shit out of protesters for being out past bedtime.

It was really clear that DeBlasio was terrified of the police. They doxxed his daughter and he was probably legit scared for his life at some point.

Mmk. Were the people the NYPD kettled being violent? No. Hence the settlement. Read the article.

If you think a police officer making 45k a year is going to need to take out “malpractice insurance” and is going to pay out of their own pocket I have a bridge to sell you.

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The individual officer pays for the insurance. The officer creates an issue where they are at fault. Insurance pays out, the officer's premium goes up. Eventually it's not financially worth it to be a bad cop. It's not a perfect solution. At the moment the citizen is on the hook for bad conduct. This would solve that.

It deadass needs to happen that way, actually. Send in the troops.

I misread the title and thought it referred to millions pissed away in wages for NYPD to observe peaceful protests.

Hahahahaha! Oh boy, do you think the NYPD would let themselves be held accountable?

> They'd literally burn this city to the ground.

This is exactly the heart of the problem. The people responsible for "keeping law and order" in the city would burn it to the ground in a heartbeat if they were faced with accountability for doing illegal shit. It's the most glaringly obvious reason to disband them if we want a longterm solution.

It's a classic "who watches the watchmen" situation.

The separate organization could be the Attorney General, which is far enough removed from daily policing activities that it makes sense. Civilian Complaint Review Board is also independent of NYPD so, there's that.

The issue is ultimately accountability. What should happen if a police officer steps outside of their legally-restrained role which unfortunately exists in a fast-paced, high-tension environment with a lot of grey areas and "he said, she said."

You are right. Look at the racist riot they held in 1992 when the CCRB was created. A bunch of drunk off duty cops calling Dinkins and the black members of city council n-words as they trashed the streets. Fuck the NYPD and anyone who supports them.

We pay

Since when is burning police cars and smashing windows peaceful, what a bunch of crock! These protests were not peaceful, and regularly turned violent. Anyone who've seen the aftermath in Union square would not think it was peaceful.

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I agree. I believe that punishment for violent crimes should be harsh given the impact on victims, their loved ones and the overall impact to society. It makes my blood boil when people get no jail time for violent assaults and then go on to wreak more havoc. Rehabilitation for non violent crime where applicable, stiff penalties for violent crime and greater investment in society to help prevent crime in the first place.

To be fair, these days they oscillate between dog whistling that sentiment and just shamelessly saying it.