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barcher t1_jajq8zu wrote
New Yorkers Will Pay Millions. FTFY.
Beerbonkos t1_jajq0uc wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
It was pretty funny.
[deleted] t1_jajpw50 wrote
Reply to comment by mrpeeng in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
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Arleare13 t1_jajo0u4 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Dude, what are you talking about? They actively fought this case for two years. The PACER docket has like 900 filed documents on it. It’s kind of absurd to say they weren’t allowed to defend themselves.
bangbangthreehunna t1_jajmmmt wrote
Reply to comment by Ice_Like_Winnipeg in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
There were hundreds of arrests on Fordham that the Bronx DAs office dropped.
LuisTheCool t1_jajm7te wrote
Of course they let this happen in the Bronx, I’m just glad the protestors will be paid
Ice_Like_Winnipeg t1_jajm6pv wrote
Reply to comment by bangbangthreehunna in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
They weren’t kettling rioters…
ShadownetZero t1_jajluuu wrote
Reply to comment by NetQuarterLatte in Pols target NYC’s violent, repeat shoplifters with bill to protect retailer workers just like cops, firefighters by NYY657545
>Any intentional physical touch can be considered assault.
This is 100% correct, and your response of "serious injury is needed!" is pedantic and not relevant to the point.
Any intentional physical touch can be considered a form of assault in New York. Even if the offense doesn't have the word "assault" in it.
bangbangthreehunna t1_jajlcwj wrote
Reply to comment by th3D4rkH0rs3 in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Thats crazy.
Beerbonkos t1_jajkxw1 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Lol.
PiffityPoffity t1_jajkwis wrote
Reply to comment by Grass8989 in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
We can pay a salary that easily covers basic insurance premiums. If the premiums rise because of the officer’s record, that’s on them. That’s the whole point—make it economically harder to repeat offenders to maintain a career in law enforcement. It’s exactly how we treat doctors. If someone’s insurance premiums are significantly higher than average for the industry, they’re probably not cut out for it.
PiffityPoffity t1_jajkefw wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
If cops want to personally defend themselves, they’re free to waive qualified immunity. I don’t see that happening voluntarily ever.
th3D4rkH0rs3 t1_jajkc8v wrote
Reply to comment by bangbangthreehunna in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Correct.
NetQuarterLatte t1_jajjb7j wrote
Reply to comment by ShadownetZero in Pols target NYC’s violent, repeat shoplifters with bill to protect retailer workers just like cops, firefighters by NYY657545
>To which arguing the point about serious injury is pedantic to point of almost being irrelevant.
You're correct that comment I replied referred to "any assault".
However, that's not the point I was replying to (and indeed it's not what I quoted in my reply).
My reply was aimed at the bad examples of "assault" that were provided. Those bad examples would be misleading and missinformative to the reader.
They would be misleading because these are not automatically assault under NY Law, and thus such conducts would not be impacted in any way by the bill proposal from the news.
>Sorry sir, I fell over and my fist fell into her face.
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>Any intentional physical touch can be considered assault.
Beerbonkos t1_jajiyp2 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
They do fight them and often win. But when the evidence is overwhelmingly against them they settle.
Grass8989 t1_jajisut wrote
Reply to comment by GlitteringHighway in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Just having a rational take on this, unlike most people. The city would very obviously be footing the bill if this ever became a thing
[deleted] t1_jajihfn wrote
Reply to comment by OverlordXenu in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
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bangbangthreehunna t1_jaji7vh wrote
Reply to comment by th3D4rkH0rs3 in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
Yes. NYPD was the out of control group in 2020
bangbangthreehunna t1_jajhxu0 wrote
Reply to comment by 139_LENOX in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
If they went to soho and did the same shit, you would have complained. The Bronx got hit really hard with looters. Look at the Fordham Riot.
OverlordXenu t1_jajhm79 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
yeah my guy, the cops have their own law department. my friend literally worked there. they are treated by cops and others as if they are part of the nypd, even if there is nominal structural separation. they are de facto part of the nypd. which is why my friend didn't continue working there. he felt that even the IA lawyers went easy on the cops, which was ironic because they were also despised by the cops as if they were inteneral affairs cops.
but, notably, the lawyers that handle the cases for the cops are not the same ones that handle lawsuits against the city or other departments. that was more the point i was trying to make. the same lawyers do not handle tripping on the sidewalk and police brutality cases.
GlitteringHighway t1_jajhh8i wrote
Reply to comment by Grass8989 in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
You ok bud? Overcompensating for something?
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ShadownetZero t1_jajfrit wrote
Reply to comment by NetQuarterLatte in Pols target NYC’s violent, repeat shoplifters with bill to protect retailer workers just like cops, firefighters by NYY657545
>It's not pedantic.
The slogan of the pedant.
The umbrella of "assault" covers several different offenses. While you are correct that the specific offense being referred to by the proposal requires serious injury, the comment you originally replied to was:
>It’s odd to me that any assault isn’t a felony.
To which arguing the point about serious injury is pedantic to point of almost being irrelevant.
Arleare13 t1_jajs898 wrote
Reply to comment by OverlordXenu in New York Will Pay Millions to Protesters Violently Corralled by Police by mowotlarx
The NYPD is represented in big defensive civil rights cases like this by the NYC Law Department, which is a city agency that (among other things) acts as outside counsel for other city agencies and employees. Basically the city equivalent of the state Attorney General.
The NYPD does also have its own internal law department, but they don't handle big litigations like this one.