Recent comments in /f/nyc

_neutral_person t1_jczvp67 wrote

Exactly the issue. You are under estimating the cost of healthcare and pension.

Pension is paid into a fund per officer. Invested or not, it's a cost. With 20 years retirement and an excellent pension plan, it's going to be expensive. Then you have healthcare. Post covid essential services with good healthcare costs have risen almost 33 percent, once again per officer.

An officer doing OT saves the PD money. It also offers flexibility for when they don't need officers.

You can argue it's because of the shortage but the NYPD has been abusing OT for decades. This is not new.

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Buddynorris t1_jcztrje wrote

That's actually not true. The part about it being one of the least dangerous jobs. And danger doesnt just mean death btw. I love your endless ranting all over this thread, please keep going.

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markyymark13 t1_jcztlgk wrote

A majority of cops here in Seattle are making well over $100K. The city has done everything from hiring bonuses to paying them crazy salaries to the point that many police officers here some of the highest paid public employees.

And despite all that, we're still really short of police officers. So maybe pay isn't the end-all-be-all solution many think it is. Have you considered the idea that people simply don't want to be a cop? At least not in its current form?

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_neutral_person t1_jcztdhd wrote

The low starting salaries were fought for by the union veterans at the expense of the younger POs. Maybe this was a gamble to slow recruitment, create a shortage, and then demand raises on the lower end while retaining salaries for higher ranked officers.

Maybe it's time to cut salaries at the top and give it to the officers at the bottom.

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Rottimer t1_jczrh93 wrote

By the way, this is exactly why Bragg’s office declined to immediately prosecute Trump when he first got into office and those 2 attorneys resigned in protest. With a case like this, you have to dot your i’s and cross your t’s before any indictment, as the wrath of MAGA world will immediately be on the office if the grand jury says there is enough for a trial.

Clearly he did not feel the case was ready back then.

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team_suba t1_jczrbxv wrote

The problem really isn’t salary, well top salary at least. Any cop will tell you that once you reach top pay you are going to be well over 6 figures even with minimal overtime. All city agencies make their money in overtime, it’s no secret. So how much you make as a cop is entirely up to you. But even bare minimum will be over 100.

The problem is eating shit for 5 years until you get to top pay. And the raise increments are very back loaded so you really don’t start seeing anything meaningful until year 4. And there’s a huge percentage that don’t even make it that point for a bunch of different reasons. That’s why when you look at average salary it’s so low. But if you look at someone who’s been in nypd for let’s say 7-10 years (go ahead out there name in on seethroughny.com and test if you’d like) their salary will be over 125k guaranteed.

Regardless, salary is not the reason why the nypd is an unattractive job. Just look at how people treat and feel towards police. You can join any other city agency, make just as much, work less/ not as hard, and not be hated by your community.

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bittoxic00 t1_jczrbni wrote

Maybe, and correct me if I’m wrong, they could just back off policing. In 2017 they did it as a way to ‘punish’ the city but it had the opposite effect. We could police less, use the money for services, and enjoy a greater quality of life

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EWC_2015 t1_jczr7cs wrote

Even if/when the indictment is voted, it's sealed as a matter of state law until it's actually filed in court at the arraignment. And then it's a matter of prosecutorial ethics to litigate the case in the courts and not out in the open where it could influence potential trial jurors.

So many levels of stupid here by the House GOP.

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Rottimer t1_jczqt8x wrote

As it should. The ridiculousness of congressmen asking a local prosecutor to testify about a possible indictment on an ongoing case before the grand jury has even handed down a decision is fucking asinine and I expect entirely unprecedented.

Tell me they’re not trying to influence a decision on a criminal matter.

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Spirited_Touch6898 t1_jczq289 wrote

The real story, that old rental needs a shit ton of renovations if it cost $700. So after 80k in renovations, you can raise rent $50 to 750$/month of rent. You can invest same 80k in a savings account at 5%, and get half of that income with no risk of a deadbeat tenant, or risk of servicing the apartment, I'm guessing the hitting costs alone cost $100/month. You could also get more $$ investing into the dozens of REITs trading in the stock market. If I was a landlord, I would only rent out those apartments as a favor to somebody I know. Remember how the tenants during covid were braggin on Reddit they were screwing over the landlords, well its payback time. One scumbag, who prolly makes over 100k working an office job, stopped paying his rent "in solidarity" with all the other neighbors who stopped paying rent cause they were laid off.

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Agitated_Jicama_2072 t1_jczpzcw wrote

More Cops died from Covid than anything else. Get real. Percentage wise, being a cop is rather safe and one of the least dangerous jobs in the country.

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Agitated_Jicama_2072 t1_jczpm52 wrote

Yes I can tell by the fact they’re all on their phones, and don’t look like they’re physically uhhh up for the task of doing much besides eating more donuts.

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