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DoctorK16 t1_jd464td wrote

Reply to comment by Medical-Ad-4141 in House GOP chairmen ask Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg to testify on Trump probe by newzee1

Why would it? You’re the one asserting it. Hint are they going to ask for what went in to the decision to prosecute? Or what was going on after the decision was made?

Btw, your username is giving bot vibes and I don’t care if trump gets locked up. Just don’t like misinformation.

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tickleMyBigPoop OP t1_jd45mko wrote

Reply to comment by AlienTD5 in In 2019 nyc voted to use congestion pricing to reduce carbon emissions. Three years it’s not implemented but at least the case study required by the National Environmental Protection Act is done…. 4007 pages. by tickleMyBigPoop

Now think this is just for congestion pricing in one city.

Imagine trying to make cross state rail systems, expand port capacity, build a massive solar farm, etc etc.

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planning_throwaway1 t1_jd458av wrote

Reply to comment by LittleWind_ in In 2019 nyc voted to use congestion pricing to reduce carbon emissions. Three years it’s not implemented but at least the case study required by the National Environmental Protection Act is done…. 4007 pages. by tickleMyBigPoop

This is a federal requirement, unfortunately. One of those "sounds good on paper" ideas that have been a disaster for any project that might actually be good for the environment. Other countries don't do this. The cost is usually in the low millions for project of this size, but the real killer is just how long they take. 4 years for something like NYC congestion pricing sounds about right to me. Although maybe not, since it's not like there's no tolls currently, congestion pricing is largely just standardizing tolls across the board.

They were originally supposed to be short studies, just be a paragraph or two, but now in practice they look like this. Entirely to try and avoid frivolous lawsuits.

So in practice highways keep getting built, while bus ways, bike lanes and transit projects get held up for years by these things

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CactusBoyScout t1_jd44vas wrote

Reply to comment by Edwunclerthe3rd in In 2019 nyc voted to use congestion pricing to reduce carbon emissions. Three years it’s not implemented but at least the case study required by the National Environmental Protection Act is done…. 4007 pages. by tickleMyBigPoop

The counterpoint is that making the process take this long is part of the reason projects cost so much and often don’t happen at all. When it takes longer than any politician’s term to even do the environmental review, it’s more likely projects will simply get canceled.

Also, in this case, it’s a toll. We’re not talking about demolishing entire neighborhoods to build a highway. If there’s a problem, they can turn it off.

Ezra Klein at the NYTimes has done some articles on how NY’s experience with congestion charging is a great example of how broken these systems are. Costs for all kinds of infrastructure projects skyrocketed when these kinds of reviews became mandatory in the 1970s.

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