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Philadelphia gutted its public school system in favor of charters. So did the entire state of Louisiana. You should check out how they’re doing.

We’re talking skin tone here, not other physical characteristics.

Money that’s earmarked for educating children should not generate profits. Those profits should not be used to purchase a building that generates further profits. That building should not take further money from the city’s coffers through charged rent.

So you agree with the principle in this thread but dislike that I was honest about how all Americans use radicalized language, which you admitted to doing as well, proving my point.

But decided to bring up a point I made in another thread?

I think you’re dishonest with yourself about how you feel, especially based off what you’ve said in this thread. Now address this comment you made days ago in a completely unrelated thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/10k4cay/gavin_newsom_after_monterey_park_shooting_second/j5pqbig/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

What an idiot.

Yes? I literally said that in my last post.

EDIT: To restate the thesis of my first post; I have no issue with the existence of charter schools, my issue is specifically them being landlords to public schools, because I would rather they dedicate their attention to educating students rather than split their attention between education and real estate.

NYC tenants to landlords about to lose their homes: When you can't pay your mortgage due inability to collect on rent, its your fault you made a bad investment

NYC tenants when landlords make decisions to ensure a good investment: NOOOO, NOT LIKE THAT!

There are plenty of races that include darker complexions that your average American wouldn't consider black even just looking at them (e.g., Indians). There's more to looking black than just skin tone, there's facial features, hair type, etc

Most in the industry think its a crazy high number for the building. Likely a condo conversion play.

OK, Fine.
Do you believe publicly funded charter schools should exist?

So discrimination based on generalizations.

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If the government isn't going to make public schools better, that's what's going to happen regardless of whether or not I want it.

What I do believe is that it's entirely just and fair for parents and students to choose who they learn with, as long as the state curriculum is followed (IE, don't just put your kids in a religious school and refuse to teach science and math). Unfortunately, too many American families and students don't have that choice.

These people need a hobby srsly wtf

Where did I say anything that disagrees with what you're saying?

I never said charter admission wasn't based on lotteries. I never said they were substantively white, nor that they weren't full of black and Hispanic students. I never said I was against charter schools or that parents were wrong for sending their children there.

You seem like you're so used to arguing with anti-charter posters you just regurgitate the same facts irrespective of whether or not they prove your point.

Is there any evidence to believe the alternative? Or is this just a “I don’t like charter schools therefore their founders are criminals” take?

No. terms have meaning. Let's say for example you work for the city, you save up a bit of money buy a building and the city comes to you and says "We'll rent that building from you." Are you double dipping from the city? No of course not.

Now, let us say you are a lazy incompetent worker, show up late, leave early, shoddy results, but you still save enough to buy a building and the city still rents from you? Is that "double dipping?" Once again no.

Now let's say in the rental agreement with the city it's stated that you are to provide handyman and general repair service included with the rent. A window is broken, you repair it, you send a bill to the city for the materials & labor to repair that window. Is that double dipping? Yes!

100% agree there. They certainly need to be held accountable. And no doubt there's so much waste due to bureaucracy.

How guileless are you?

Because in today's market there are no shortage of renters, so if you were a landlord and had the choice between someone with good credit and a good job vs someone who is having the majority of the rent paid for them, it's easy to see why the former would be less risky.

Also there are more evictions (time, money, and headache) and the tenants don't tend to keep the apartments nice.

Success Academy is a non-profit, anything it earns from renting to public schools will be reinvested with the goal of improving its educational practices, it won’t just pocket the money

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Not doubting that. But consider the fact that DOE funding is at an all time high with more than a 10% drop in enrollment. Academic performance citywide is also something that should be examined. DOE is full of its own issues.

Lolol, is your point here "public schools should only be for the freaks"?

You are factually wrong.

In NYC, charter school placement is done by lottery. Preference is obviously given to returning students, siblings of students and local residents.

White kids make up only 4% of Charter School Students, the majority(52%) go to private school, with the rest to public school.

20% of Black kids, 9% of Hispanic kids and less than 2% of Asian kids go to Charter schools, which means Charter schools are about 90% Black and Hispanic.

We can easily assume those numbers would be significantly higher Black and Hispanic kids if there were more charter schools.

So just to be clear, you are telling People of Color that they are wrong for sending their children to charter schools.

https://www.schools.nyc.gov/enrollment/enroll-in-charter-schools/how-to-enroll-in-charter-schools

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/complex-demographics-new-york-public-private-schools