Recent comments in /f/nyc

ctindel t1_jdxn957 wrote

Yeah I know the theory I’m talking about real life here. The feds tax us more and control the vast majority of the things that affect us everyday.

The fact that interstate commerce clause allows the feds to control commerce that never leaves a states boundaries is all you need to know for who is really in control.

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ffzero58 t1_jdxn8pe wrote

Whoever implemented this version of bail reform did not do a thorough job of closing out some odd loopholes. However, bail reform did help a very high number of folks who were first time offenders to not lose their jobs and livelihood. I hope the next iteration of reforms will fix these issues - especially the career criminals and repeat offenders.

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Silentarrowz t1_jdxn8l3 wrote

Sure, and I accept that under normal circumstances they can refuse a lot of them, I would hope they do so in a good faith way (ie. Denying them when there is another applicant or an actual issue rather than just going "eh no good applicants" and leaving a space vacant). I want it improved, but I don't think landlords should just get to go completely ignore it.

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casanovaelrey t1_jdxn363 wrote

We've tried the "tough on crime" and "War on Drugs" angle for 40+ years. Sooooooo yeah, I don't know that 2 years is enough to undo decades of terrible conservative policies. Plus bail IS NOT PUNISHMENT. That's LITERALLY a violation of several constitutional amendments to impose a punishment before a sentence has been given by a judge.

That being said, the revolving door of people with 10,000 charges being let back out on the street is wild. There should be a precondition that people released must not commit new crimes and that certain crimes go through a separate review process to determine whether that person can safely be allowed to be released pretrial.

And before ANYONE says "well *insert number" people support it", I don't care. Not everyone knows the law and most people operate based on what they think the law is. But I digress.

The current dynamic can't continue but it can't continue anymore than the one favored by the conservatives for the last several decades can continue. We need to sit down and come up with policy divorced of politics and pleasing "the other side of the aisle". Or else we will end up having this discussion again.

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Luke90210 t1_jdxn0ga wrote

You sound very naive. Under the current housing crisis any landlord can find an easy reason to legitimately reject a Section 8 applicant or just accept one as a token. Its just one more application out of many. And its not like the apartment is going to waste as someone else who needs it and willing to pay for it out of pocket will get it.

There is simply not enough housing stock in NYC for the demand. Section 8 isn't going to solve this.

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mowotlarx t1_jdxms43 wrote

No. Discovery is the correct, legal and ETHICAL thing to do. If it's an issue, fund the courts and more staff. Everyone on trial is entitled to ALL of the evidence against them. Period

"Grieving families" don't take priority over a fair trial. That could be your or any one of us railroaded at trial with an immoral prosecutor withholding evidence.

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Oslopa t1_jdxkbwz wrote

So… we shouldn’t ensure that defendants get the evidence against them in a timely manner, or get a speedy trial?

There may be some truth in noting that 30.30 is getting a lot of cases dismissed. But the solution to that is more resources for handling the process, not subjecting people to unjust processes as a form of extra-legal punishment. It’s the same thing with cashless bail. So much of the criticism isn’t about the law, it’s about how an overwhelmed prosecutorial system is dealing with the law. We need to find a better response than to just unwind the reforms so that our prosecutors can have the upper hand again to railroad defendants.

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KaiDaiz t1_jdxh665 wrote

Bail reform is not the major issue. Speedy trial and discovery reform is what's really driving the work load and priority of cases at DA offices to work on and abandon for eventually dismissal by 30.30. Which contributes to the appearance of revolving door of perps and lack of priority to resolve the issue by police, courts, govt

Also Gov needs to revisit the Grieving Families Act that she veto due to special interest lobby - another massive failure that no one is talking about nor much in news

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