Recent comments in /f/philadelphia

IrishWave t1_j8x4uzp wrote

This one seems different though. I'd agree that most volunteer / non-profit groups are a black hole in terms of spending vs. effectiveness, but this seems different in two ways:

  1. They have a defined and measurable statistic in the X% reduction in crime in school areas (assuming they're not playing games with defining the school areas).
  2. They have a clear objective with how the money is going to be spent (raises and more employees).

Programs like this are night and day vs. the give me millions so I can build an anti-violence phone app crap that was being touted a year ago.

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porkchameleon t1_j8x4tqq wrote

I've been doing sports betting in literally every bar I've been at in the past couple of years, how in fuck is this different, given it's not a casino?

Also - fuck sports betting in particular and gambling in general. One industry I vowed never to set my foot into (and I've seen quite a few software engineers in my LinkedIn network go there from the likes of Twitter and some other Fortune 50 companies).

(I win on the regular, but I also play with coffee money; I've seen people's livelihoods destroyed with easy online betting).

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OccasionallyImmortal t1_j8x4t8f wrote

> away from achieving goals

The people allocating the funds need to define what those goals are. They need to be measurable goals and funding must be withdrawn from organizations (government as well as private) that fail to meet those goals... or the goals need to be refined. This is something that the vast majority of government agencies at every level fail to do.

The same should be applied to laws, but I may as well bark at windmills.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8x2co0 wrote

I hear ya. But some of these people don't have any idea where they're going ahead if time for their community service if they're coming right from jail. My aunt lives in jersey on the river and twice a year, guys in their orange jumpsuits come to clear out lots of old wood and trash along the river. They're chaperoned by a bunch o gun carrying cops and I've been there when they're over there doing it. They get a gorgeous day outside and they look at the water and they clean up the area. They're usually there for 10 hours. They get breaks. They do a gorgeous job, and they're very kind if folks walk by and greet them. I'm of the mindset that yes, there are some people out there who are not in any way fit for society for whatever reason, but I also know that *some* violent offenders could have just fucked up badly due to circumstance. I believe a lot can come from rehabilitating people.

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