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shirk-work t1_j9xrqkh wrote

You can probably understand the principles just fine. Just trying to find the area under a curved line by cutting it into infinitely small blocks. Turns out there's families of curvy lin s where we can prove that there's rules to determine some finite sum and at least segments of other curvy lines that can be approximated within a given start and end point. It turns out that a lot of things in reality share this same relationship of curvy lines and the area below them and it's super useful for engineering. So that's why we learn calculus.

The real pain comes when you try to prove those rules in the complex plane. Makes even math majors cry. That said I've always preferred discrete math and more so the compsci side of things, algorithm analysis. Now machine learning is messing it all up with it's probability and statistics.

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shirk-work t1_j9xra3h wrote

I mean molecules follow equations in calculus, doesn't mean they know the equations. I do like the idea of one singular sage ant being hyper aware or better yet some hive mind being chemically processed at a slow speed and low bandwidth (compared to neurons being directly connected) being all hyper aware.

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rhyanin t1_j9xqkn4 wrote

Kinda, but I believe that there’s a difference. I think it works like this. Humans have the ability to understand concepts and derive new things from those concepts. AI, at this point at least, hasn’t. It can only derive from snippets of information without understanding how they connect. Therefore it can not make a truly new, unique thought.

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nothingexceptfor t1_j9xpfcw wrote

The problem with the argument of "people will just do different jobs, better jobs" is that there won't be that many of those new jobs, as the goal is efficiency, only a very few will get to do these new jobs and inevitably those jobs will go soon too, faster than other jobs went before as the rate of innovation and efficiency accelerates with every iteration. Most people won't be doing better jobs but rather the jobs that AI cannot (yet) do, such as physical labour, but as soon as general use robots are a thing that's gone too, so something will have to be done with Humanity and the way we live our lives, and by the speed at which this is happening we might be seeing this events in our life time.

I didn't read this article but this is nothing new, I've been reading about this inevitable outcome for years, and I am very pessimistic about the future, or at least I feel very uncertain, the one thing I know is that we won't be doing the creative or office jobs we do today very soon, all from designers, composers, programmers, even actors, it all goes.

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GepardenK t1_j9xlw53 wrote

>Where is the evidence that we can't explain reality?

Think about what it would mean to explain something.

Empiricism, i.e. science, considers what we experience to be reality. It then uses experience (testing) to explain what we experience. As you may notice this is circular. Science seeks to understand what we experience, it isn't interested in explaining reality in a fundamental way and in fact refuses to do so as it would be unscientific.

On the other hand we have the various forms of metaphysics. Unlike science metaphysics doesn't trust what we experience outright because it considers truth to be something independent of experience. Which means that, by it's own premise, an ultimate explanation of reality cannot be reached as the evidence is considered unreliable.

In either case, science or metaphysics, the conclusion is that reality cannot be explained.

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siliconecookies t1_j9xicis wrote

Compile a list of about 300 values by searching the Internet for 'list of values' and copying them into Word/Excel/write them on paper. Take 3 of them at a time and decide which one resonates most with you. Scratch out the rest. Continue until you have a list of 5. Then, identify what actions you need to take, or what habits you need to change that align with that list of 5 values. Then start implementing those changes. Doing this got me out of depression and gave me clarity on what to do with my life.

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GepardenK t1_j9xg72u wrote

> Which would be whatever are the foundational blocks of all of reality. Quantum fields or what have you.

Since you seem to be appealing to empirical concepts I feel compelled to point out that according to empiricism this idea that only the smallest components represent reality is just flat out wrong.

Empiricism holds that there is no universal reference frame. Empiricism even go as far as saying, some would argue to a fault, that apriori knowledge doesn't exist at all - i.e. nothing can be said to be true independent of experience.

Thus: the quantum level, or what have you, have no more claim to truth than the cosmic level or any other frame. If a property, like solidness, exists in one frame but not the other then that in no way invalidates it's existence. According to empiricism something is real if it can be experienced; scale matters not.

It is tempting to think that "smaller is truer" because we usually have to go smaller when following the arrow of causality. But finding the origin of causality just means finding the origin of causality; it dosen't make it any more or less true than any other phenomena.

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Pluue14 t1_j9xfxgs wrote

I input some text I found off a random NBC article I saw posted to reddit and its likelihood is also listed at quite high.

> A 6-foot-6 Florida high-schooler pummeled a female school employee, leaving her unconscious after she confiscated his Nintendo Switch, according to police and video surveillance of the attack.

> The attack happened Tuesday at Matanzas High School in Palm Coast, according to the Flagler County Sheriff’s Office.

> Palm Coast is about 35 miles north of Daytona Beach.

> The 17-year-old student is 6-foot-6 and weighs 270 pounds, officials said.

> “The student stated that he was upset because the victim took his Nintendo Switch away from him during class,” the sheriff's office statement said.

Now, I don't have proof this wasn't AI generated, but I think its more likely that the tool just sucks. We have to remember that these dull, flavorless articles that are written en-masse are what comprises a huge portion of what ChatGPT is trained upon; so while the tool may be useful for determining other types of text, I imagine it'll have a high false positive rate on these generic types of articles.

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passengera34 t1_j9xfck1 wrote

If you would consider watching the video, you'd see that no one is cheering for ignorance of science.

Context is always relevant. The context of a scientific hypothesis enables us to do things. That's why "closing" is useful. But experimentation does not say anything absolute about objects in "reality".

Not only that, but there are severe issues that your kind of scientific realism cannot address...

"Reproducibility of results"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

"Verification of multiple parties"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pessimistic_induction

Uh oh!

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GepardenK t1_j9xdu9c wrote

>Well be needing a different term than "Post-postmodern".

We should just retire the concept entirely rather than come up with a new term. Self-identifying as a new era is cringe and leaves one vulnerable to thinking progress is being made even when it isn't: whether we have successfully moved beyond modernism at this point will be up to future historians - not us.

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Significant-Factor-9 t1_j9xbwth wrote

Hey guys, I need some help finding a good book by Karl Jaspers. I'm interested in reading his 'great philosophers' books, especially those on the presocratic philosophers, but I'm worried about the authenticity of them. Most articles about Jaspers don't say much about the great philosophers, mostly focusing on his psychopathology and his book on 'german guilt' but one description I found of the book says that he didn't even write the great philosophers. Rather that the books are just a specially curated collection of his lecture prompts. Does anyone know about Jaspers? And can anyone second that these books as they are available are not really his?

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doctorcrimson t1_j9xbuuf wrote

I love how you just cheered for ignorance of science in that first part, basically making my case for me. Reproducibility of results and verification by multiple parties is the only way we know anything, it is constantly proving more accurate than beliefs of any single individual.

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