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Otto_von_Boismarck t1_j9yedln wrote
Reply to comment by noonemustknowmysecre in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Why do you people keep talking about language? That has nothing to do with the topic. Things are simply constructs of the human mind. A chair is only so much a chair as we all agree it is one. The universe as far as we know is made up of a bunch of intrinsic items (fields or whst have you) that create new emergent properties through a bunch of interactions we call extrinsic properties. And a collection of those extrinsic properties are in our brain constructed together to give the illusion that we are looking at a singular "thing", when such a thing in reality doesn't exist. It's a mind construct, useful at that, but a construct nonetheless.
I also don't deny reality exists. Quite the opposite. I'm a physicalist after all.
Jay_Louis t1_j9yecus wrote
Reply to comment by Zeebuss in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Some are trying out 'metamodern' which I hate
Jay_Louis t1_j9ye76k wrote
Reply to comment by GrogramanTheRed in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Or the foundational Jewish belief about God. Jews write G-d to remind that even the name isn't comprehensible, language itself is incomplete, early Derridean theory 3000 years before Derrida
Jay_Louis t1_j9ydvbq wrote
Reply to comment by averagedebatekid in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Kant's sublime is unknowable. Burke as well. There's nothing new in philosophical theories that accept limitations on what can be understood
Nederlander1 t1_j9ydmak wrote
Reply to comment by norbertus in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
It just means make sure the AI is woke and follows the correct narrative
Otto_von_Boismarck t1_j9ydgib wrote
Reply to comment by ANightmareOnBakerSt in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Youre missing the point. There simply isn't an actual "thing" called a bottle, it's simply a category for a collection of extrinsic properties. The bottle only exists so far as it exists in the construct of your mind.
You keep trying to talk about this "thing" called a bottle, but it doesn't exist. I could use a flame thrower on the bottle and it would change into something entirely different, but would still broadly exist of the same subatomic particles. Just with different extrinsic properties, and therefore looking like something different to us.
Yes of course our mind doesn't actually make an accurate and realistic version of the universe. That's why we see "things" and not just clumps of fields interacting with each other. We can't actually see subatomic particles after all. But plenty of evidence suggests those exist.
Rayqson t1_j9yd09o wrote
Reply to comment by makesyoudownvote in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
For real. People don't understand how alarmingly quick AI is going to grow and quote me on this because it IS going to happen: People are going to lose their jobs to AI robots because they can learn much faster, plus they can keep them running 24/7. CEO's WILL choose robots over humans, all in the name of profit. And it IS already happening as we speak. For example, 20 million automation jobs are going to be lost to automation by 2030.
Nvidia said in the next 10 years, AI is going to be a million more times advanced than it is now, and with supercomputers, this is going to be even worse.
AI needs regulation, and human life is in serious danger. And I don't mean in the way of rebelling AI robots, no. This is going to be a slow, structural decline of the society we've built so far. First, it's the manual labor folks. Then, once we can automate and learn AI how to manage data entry/office jobs, it's the white collar folks.
And they're not gonna compensate these folks. They don't care. Back then in the automation phase nobody got anything. You just get fired and that's it.
You can "nah, AI isn't growing that quick besides it's not usable right now it's so inefficient." me all you want, but go tell that to computers. Tell that to the internet. Tell that to mobile phones. They ALL got the same comments in the beginning, and look at where we are now.
Even Stephen Hawking warned us about it before he died. We need to regulate this because it is structurally endangering humanity, where only the elite who own companies are going to be left. (Even though I won't be surprised if this causes a serious civil war against the rich once they've claimed all wealth for themselves. Think full on raids to kill people like Elon or Bezos.)
Stephen Hawking also specifically stated it's either the best thing or the worst thing that's ever going to happen to us. But if we keep valueing money over people like we are now, it IS going to be the worst thing.
bbreaddit t1_j9yc6x3 wrote
It's kind of scary to think of what one entity could do with ai on their lonesome. It should not be hard to access the data used to create an ai to ensure anyone can recreate the ai so we wouldnt need to be worried about what it would say and why, and if it were using any data it shouldn't be (hmm at current models)
passengera34 t1_j9ybgoc wrote
Reply to comment by doctorcrimson in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Was it too hard for you to understand? Do you need me to draw you a picture?
jdubf13 t1_j9ybaub wrote
Reply to comment by shirk-work in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Ever taken a couple hits of good acid??
v_maria t1_j9ybagn wrote
Reply to comment by 22HitchSlaps in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
I still think it's a matter of how the AI is used. The company using it has a higher potential but they have to realize it too
nothingexceptfor t1_j9yb9k3 wrote
Reply to comment by AllanfromWales1 in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Fair enough, I am in my early 40s but I still think that by the rate at which advances are coming in I will see this in my life time, maybe you too.
Thank you for your reply and engagement, have a nice day.
shirk-work t1_j9yayfb wrote
Reply to comment by jdubf13 in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
What does it mean to know?
Zyxyx t1_j9yaxfv wrote
Reply to comment by AllanfromWales1 in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
One problem: AI doesn't have to do your job as good as or better than you.
All it has to do is good enough to pass for a fraction of the cost to keep you hired.
And once it reached that point, that's it for the entire career path for every human in the future.
bbreaddit t1_j9yaud5 wrote
Reply to comment by norbertus in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
AI powered corporate account detected
siliconecookies t1_j9ya0kj wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Your choice of values should be entirely based on your own opinion. Those that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside and not what society expects you to choose. It is not about what is correct or incorrect, but rather what aligns with what you, personally, find important.
Zyxyx t1_j9y9ztb wrote
Reply to comment by Sometimes_Stutters in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
The only way to stop a bad guy with AI is a good guy with AI.
GepardenK t1_j9y9tth wrote
Reply to comment by MoleyWhammoth in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
> Did we just pass the Turing Test?
Well, no. Even if everyone thought this article was written by a human that would not pass the Turing Test.
The Turing test requires two participants to engage back and forth in conversation, one being human and the other an AI, and then for a third party to watch the conversation in real time and not be able to distinguish who is human and who is not.
It is a significantly higher standard than simply confusing some algorithmic text for having been written by a person.
jdubf13 t1_j9y8qej wrote
Reply to comment by shirk-work in Reality is an openness that we can never fully grasp. We need closures as a means of intervening in the world. | Post-postmodern philosopher and critic of realism Hilary Lawson explains closure theory. by IAI_Admin
Dude, everything is all knowing and all one …if we know calculus Ants know calculus
AllanfromWales1 t1_j9y8p35 wrote
Reply to comment by nothingexceptfor in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Sorry, by 'apocalypse' I meant loss of the workplace as the social norm, not some sci-fi nonsense. In my judgement the timescale for this exceeds my life expectancy quite significantly. That in part is mediated by the fact that I'm in my late sixties with various health conditions, but even without that I think the doomsday predictions are too premature.
22HitchSlaps t1_j9y8fqy wrote
Reply to comment by v_maria in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Actually replacing jobs Vs 'better than human' is different I'd say. It's not so much that overnight everything will disappear but you can easily see how disruptive it'll be, even in narrow examples. Two companies doing the same job, one with AI one without is not going to be the same.
v_maria t1_j9y81vw wrote
Reply to comment by 22HitchSlaps in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
saying "AI will replace every job soon" is equally shortsighted though. There is a lot of job niches where it's not worth it to train AI for, it wouldn't be profitable.
For these things to be properly automated you would need "artificial general intelligence" which is still speculative.
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lupuscapabilis t1_j9y6fe9 wrote
Reads like it’s written by a child. Not relevant.
[deleted] t1_j9yf9bk wrote
Reply to comment by norbertus in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
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