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LastAphrodesiac t1_j9zdsgh wrote
Reply to comment by AllanfromWales1 in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
It's already ruined my life :)
LastAphrodesiac t1_j9zdpv9 wrote
Reply to comment by Quantum-Bot in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Right, we will just keep letting it steal the work and income of actual people
Daedalus277 t1_j9zdmjs wrote
Reply to comment by Rayqson in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
> "First, it's the manual labor folks. Then, once we can automate and learn AI how to manage data entry/office jobs, it's the white collar folks."
I personally think it's the other way around. AI already exists virtually whereas to replace all construction/engineering/trade jobs you'd need precise and incredibly versatile robots. These robots are already underway but still far off replacing humans. Data entry/office jobs wouldn't be hard to automate with AI. Coding and admin are already being taken over for example.
allessior t1_j9zd5ut wrote
Reply to comment by Rayqson in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Most automation today is NOT “AI”. Most automation uses traditional programming, structured and/or objected oriented, and uses simple data structured and algorithms. What is actually happening is corporate/business taxes are increasing dramatically, inflation is driving all costs through the roof, so to stay above water, businesses have no choice but to automate. AI is over-kill for automation, which is focused on fairly simple, ripetitive tasks. Computer code generators were invented in the late 70s, early 80s because of shortages of programmers, so simple data structures and coding have been automated since then.
So sorry to burst your bubble…it’s the high costs of doing business that’s driving the automation and it has little to do with “AI”.
oramirite t1_j9zcoan wrote
Reply to comment by ibringthehotpockets in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Give me a break, eye-scanning a reddit thread for rough percentages is NEEEEEVWR going to be a scientifically sound sampling method. You'd have do actually do the test according to the actual specifications of the test. Anything else you wanna try to bend into being the test .... isn't.
What is being marketed and developed as "AI" is garbage, and we should all rally against it as being a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.
oramirite t1_j9zc9z7 wrote
Reply to comment by Purplekeyboard in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Okay? Nobody is saying it is?
oramirite t1_j9zbvhp wrote
Reply to comment by AllanfromWales1 in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
"Better" marks a level of quality, what you are talking about is profitability. Capitalism being a cancer on society doesn't absolve you of the responsibility to use language correctly. If you don't like it you cloud at least take some effort to play along with it's mistruths less.
Like, we are literally talking about inferior products, services, knowledge... everything. Of course if you're LYING about these things being of equal value to previous options, that's going to be more profitable if nobody is calling it out.
But the results are inferior and not better. Its really important that we don't give a shit about these profitability metrics that the system you and I dislike put in front of us. It's one thing to be realistic about the system we live in. It's another thing entirely to take no action against it as if it's inevitable and that resistance is futile.
ibringthehotpockets t1_j9zbk7y wrote
Reply to comment by oramirite in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
I would say a majority of people did pass it. Based on the comments, which are certainly more biased towards spotting it (they’re also going to be self-selecting educated/readers). At least at the time of posting my previous comment, there were many upvotes comments discussing it as if it were real. There’s certainly more rigorous tests that should bf done obviously, but even getting a 50% result posting to a philosophy board would probably make you think that posting it to the populace could only increase that number.
If 90% of people pass it and 10% doesn’t, does it pass lol? I mean I would think yes, I don’t see why not.
Judgethunder t1_j9zbi6p wrote
Reply to comment by ReptileCultist in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Because an artificial intelligence is not the same thing as a railroad or a textile machine.
The assumption that you should be questioning is why it should be the same.
transferstudentx t1_j9zbf8v wrote
Reply to comment by Rayqson in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Are you alse an ai ? It can be anyone of us no one is safe!.
TheGlomerulus t1_j9zbb0k wrote
Reply to comment by skwww in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Reads like it was trained on a stack of highschool essays. I'm not that worried. What AI can do will become cheap, a tool, and we will move on.
BernardJOrtcutt t1_j9zb39s wrote
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allessior t1_j9zayzs wrote
What is AI?
I hate to spoil the fun, but AI is sophisticated computer programming. Advanced learning and deep learning algorithms essentially are either interpreted or compiled then executed like any other software. Instructions are fetched from memory or cache, executed by various types of processing units sequentially or in parallel depending on the hardware architecture, and then you see some kind of output, which is either execution of a robotic arm, leg, or other body part, painting of graphics through other advanced processors, or just something else depending on the designer’s wishes. Distributed Neural Nets are basically groups of machines with data structures and algorithms mimicking brain architectures.
Bottom line, it all boils down to memory, CPUs, graphics processors, specialized ASICs, FPGAs, and sophisticated software that passes the “Turing Test”.
“AI” remains a marketing term and will be forever more, so please, the hype is nauseating.
Purplekeyboard t1_j9z97mm wrote
Reply to comment by oramirite in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Democracy also isn't "free stuff for everyone".
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CegeRoles t1_j9z8utc wrote
Reply to comment by grimorg80 in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
What if I don't want to? I like having money and owning property.
Quizik t1_j9z8j2e wrote
Reply to comment by TheRoadsMustRoll in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Yes, I'm not sure we can speak of creativity when, in fact, from the datasets the machine is trained on to the infrastructure to the programming to the electricity "it" needs to be provided- everything, actually. And the "output" can't even be considered a "new" creation (even if it tricks us by having not "existed prior") in the sense as that I think it would be *derivative * definitionally. It cannot create anything that isn't a parrot-with- additional-steps, rehash, except wherein we give it IChing/magic 8-ball/ouiji nudges.
The tech is undoubtedly powerful, and the ramifications cannot be understated, but the anthropomorphization (understandably, pareidolia by another sense) going on as far as what people are willing to ascribe to "it", I think is being overstated often (if I'm allowed to make a generalized and spurious statement).
Is the Abacus doing math, if math is "done o it/using it", and in its "end state" it looks like it represents a number?
It's a simulation if we ascribe it any "entity", but since the simulation is being done with language, it is invariably degrees of difficulty harder for most people to "counteract" the illusion ("it says!" [but then, we are talking about a people who casually ascribe that manner of agency to even a collection of unrelated books, ze bible sez]).
So it's like making yourself dizzy and saying bloody Mary three times before a candle-lit mirror, it might seem spooky if your mind is playing tricks on you, but you are alone in the bathroom.
ReptileCultist t1_j9z6t8m wrote
Reply to comment by Judgethunder in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
The question is why this time automation should be different than before
ReptileCultist t1_j9z6pqw wrote
Reply to comment by Rayqson in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
>First, it's the manual labor folks. Then, once we can automate and learn AI how to manage data entry/office jobs, it's the white collar folks.
Generally speaking it will be the other way around. Look up Moravecs Paradox.
SuperSonik319 t1_j9z5vkf wrote
Reply to comment by norbertus in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
> nobody is going to “democratize” AI by giving every poor kid in the hood a big NVIDIA card
colab kinda does. and there's so many tutorials on how to use it all over the internet. i think 90% of everyone who knows how to work AI today started with a Stable Diffusion tutorial on colab
Prinzka t1_j9z4e3d wrote
Reply to comment by Otarih in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
>I might consider it for the next article.
I was going to call you out on that since the article was written by an AI.
But then your comments also read like they were written by an AI, so maybe your response was actually correct.
techhouseliving t1_j9z2odq wrote
See the numerous interviews with Emad from stable diffusion his stated goal and what the appears to be doing is exactly this. Democratizing AI
They deserve our support that's the only way we're going to get AI for ourselves. It still takes supercomputers to index initially and that takes money.
LastAphrodesiac t1_j9zdz7t wrote
Reply to comment by AllanfromWales1 in The Job Market Apocalypse: We Must Democratize AI Now! by Otarih
Some of us have already lost a decent chunk of our income and had our expensive degrees reduced to toilet paper :)