Recent comments in /f/philosophy
vestigina t1_jav88g4 wrote
Reply to comment by Majesticeuphoria in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
My exact same thought!
vestigina t1_jav80db wrote
Reply to Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
Why do we need to trust our emotional experience, can't we just experience it without coloring it with what we think it is? We add false data to it if we try to develop a faith-based opinion on it. Real trust and fact will emerge with time almost unwittingly when certain unbiased data occur recurringly, we don't need to give special attention to trust it.
plssirnomore t1_jav7cwy wrote
Reply to comment by HouseOfSteak in Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
You say cancer doesn't have self knowledge or ego, but then claim Buddhism and religions can commit violations?
Consider that even though people with a self can live without committing physical violence, the reality of transgression against others are not just physical. There are 7 sins, violence being one. Physical reality is not the only place these violations can take place. Do you believe that 2 people who commit 0 violent acts in waking life, with one dreaming about rape, murder, domination, and the other dreaming about liberation of all beings are one and the same? Is the appearance of something, perceived by other conditioned egos, the totality of that things essence?
The real nature of the teachings as I understand them are that when you realise no self, you realise you are everything and everything is you. The person insulting you, the attractive woman, the merchant, the beggar are all consciousness trapped within matter, conditioned by samsara, acting out karma unconsciously. All transgressions come from ignorance of truth. All suffering comes from straying from the path of the creator. This is Satan, the ego, the desire to live in FREEDOM, outside of the divine reality of existence.
The belief that as an intellectual animal, distracted by 1000 things, you have the wisdom to make choices without harming others or yourself, is delusional. The man who discovered electricity that lets us read at night, is also responsible for the murder of children. Please realise that every thought or action you take, has a cause, and will have an effect. You, as an animal that can think, may not actually have the intelligence to discern even 1% of what objective reality is. The belief that you do is an ego, conditioned by a worldview prescribed to you since birth, within an economic, societal structure, all saturated in the arrogant BELIEF that materialist scientific dogma is the be all and end all of understanding existence.
anonymous__ignorant t1_jav67xp wrote
Reply to comment by minorkeyed in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
You can still have all the knowledge and not connect the dots, just like a toddler that has the knowledge yet still throws a tantrum. Or racists that insist in theyr hate while having all the needed knowledge. Or hate towards those different ... you get the gist.
Theyr feelings are primal, uneducated. They hate just because they picked some cues here and there while they grew, emotional cues that now are defaults and bypass even routine checks.
vestigina t1_jav4t0y wrote
Reply to Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
I thiught this article is about that "self" you think you are, that noisy little bitch inside is prolly not the real you. You don't need to feed this ephemeral little bitch as it will lead to an attachment and suffering of both you and the outside world. I hardly see anything wrong with that.
Am initially confused as most comments reads like being defensive from a gut reaction. It is like that little bitch op was talking about. Most are mentioning something about we must respect the self, we need to put the self in the forefront since that's all we ever have, synonymous to everything "I" am, I think, I do. You don't need the little bitch to achieve that.
BobbyLeeBob t1_jav39y8 wrote
Reply to comment by interstellarclerk in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
The definition of knowledge is justified true belief (Pierce i think). So we don't have acces to the world in itself. But we do create justified arguments and conclusion. Human brains simultanious create the world around us as well as the feeling of being a self (Joscha Bach). I would say that we are bound to belief or faith but we have to back it up by justified logic or feelings.
jerflash t1_jav2rah wrote
Reply to Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
You are the main character in your own story. If you do not believe that then you will never get anywhere. You will just continue to follow the path set out by others.
papyracanthus t1_jav1t21 wrote
Reply to comment by waytogoal in Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
I'm not sure how you read that as me agreeing, could you explain why you think I was?
2penises_in_a_pod t1_jauxzi9 wrote
Reply to Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
Reads like a narcissist jealous of other narcissists that get attention for their narcissism. The writer needs to do a little more introspection on their “self” before evaluating others’.
AdvonKoulthar t1_jauxdg1 wrote
Reply to comment by Petal_Chatoyance in Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
Haha, I feel like that’s a bit wordy and flowery to get the point across to someone who says they don’t understand it.
CableTrash t1_jautyph wrote
Reply to comment by heskey30 in Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
Nah I think about that shit all the time and I’m perfectly menta…… oh wait
Conditional-Sausage t1_jaurz78 wrote
Reply to comment by TheRoadsMustRoll in Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
Interestingly, this is very, very close to parts of the core Buddhist principles, known as the four noble truths. Buddhism also has a lot to say with regards to the illusion of the self (see: Anatman), in that it holds that there is no fixed, unchanging self, but rather a constantly fluctuating combination of five components known as the five aggregates. So any attachment to your ideas of yourself will cause you to suffer, because you will eventually change enough or arrive at the right circumstances to falsify that self-narrative.
kevinzvilt t1_jauoqk4 wrote
Reply to comment by twoiko in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
There's not a 100% certainty of the world not being a creation of my own mind or a mirage of some sort, but that conclusion leads to a bit of a dead end in terms of further philosophizing or further anything really... It would involve too many mental gymnastics and isn't a very "evident" idea... Can I suggest a reading?
kevinzvilt t1_jauocqq wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
Yes, you figured it out. We all live in Descartes' dream.
CaptainAsshat t1_jaumpdy wrote
Reply to comment by twoiko in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
I have no issue with the quote you included. My only issue was with the idea that faith is a necessary part of having said sensory experiences. Whether or not it reflects a "real" world is immaterial.
minorkeyed t1_jaumnzm wrote
Reply to comment by anonymous__ignorant in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
Okay. The emotion part is pretty apparent but where is the intelligence part?
CaptainAsshat t1_jaum7y5 wrote
Reply to comment by kevinzvilt in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
Evidence and my fallible estimate of probability.
Diligent_Excitement4 t1_jauh9ad wrote
Reply to Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
Some have suggested emotions, in some sense, are a sensation of our internal homeostasis
taojoannes t1_jauh0zx wrote
Reply to Glorifying the "self" is detrimental to both the individual and the larger world. It neither helps you find your true nature, nor your role in the larger world. by waytogoal
Define self, glorifying, detrimental, true nature, and "your role" and where applicable prove they exist.
Diligent_Excitement4 t1_jaugsqu wrote
Reply to Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
There might not be any meaningful distinction between the two
[deleted] t1_jav8lj4 wrote
Reply to comment by kevinzvilt in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
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