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IIILORDGOLDIII t1_jb2qjq0 wrote
Reply to comment by ElliElephant in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
I think the big bang probably happened with or without any conscious observers.
mirh t1_jb2pmro wrote
Reply to comment by FlyingApple31 in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
Mhh, that's a good aesthetics/psychology question I guess. But regardless, then the topic that you were covering isn't "philosophy" anymore.
It's something even worse than the "telephone game", where not only you trying to get other people to understand your every own intuition is very likely to fail.. but even your yesterday self with your current one could disagree.
gerryw173 t1_jb2pi5l wrote
Imagine if English teachers got their hands on Evangelion
ElliElephant OP t1_jb2opvp wrote
Reply to comment by IIILORDGOLDIII in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
Well yeah...that’s the million dollar question isn’t it.
If the universe objectively cares about life - or even more so - if the universe objectively cares about life capable of being curious about the universe..
Well, I think the profundity of the implications there is self evident
shadowmage666 t1_jb2nhvu wrote
No it’s more like pseudo-religious contrived nonsense than any coherent philosophy
IIILORDGOLDIII t1_jb2ngal wrote
Reply to comment by ElliElephant in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
If a tree falls in the forest, the vibrations that our ears translate into sound occur regardless of an ear being present.
>As John Bell inquired, "Was the wave function waiting to jump for thousands of millions of years until a single-celled living creature appeared? Or did it have to wait a little longer for some highly qualified measurer—with a PhD?"
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FlyingApple31 t1_jb2n1rj wrote
Reply to comment by mirh in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
A big part of art interpretation is "reading tea leaves" though. How else does abstract art even exist?
mirh t1_jb2mz3s wrote
Reply to comment by Mindestiny in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
Ngl even sword art fucking online had my ass in gear (ok perhaps that was more like about sociology than philosophy, but still).
But I suppose that even 10 implicitly thoughtful conundrums are nothing compared to a cross shining in the sky after a bomb or something...
FlyingApple31 t1_jb2mttl wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
Not who you are replying to, but there is some interesting theory on this related to "death of the author". It is not a clean-cut question, with lots of fascinating implications.
cryforabsolution t1_jb2mq0o wrote
The hospital bed scene in End of Evangelion is a reference to Georges Bataille
FlyingApple31 t1_jb2mncj wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
I mean, you are free to disagree but there is a ton of theory on that particular question so it's not really a "ha of course not" question. Check out anything related to "death of the author".
mirh t1_jb2mbc0 wrote
Reply to comment by celerym in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
I mean, I still have respect for the man I guess. Nothing wrong with baiting "history channel" people, and at least he's being honest about it.
[deleted] t1_jb2kof3 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
i’ve never studied literary criticism so i admit i’m a dummy here. do you care to expand?
celerym t1_jb2kd2d wrote
Reply to comment by mirh in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
That always get brought up about Hideaki Anno, but it’s a red herring.
Mindestiny t1_jb2kato wrote
Reply to comment by mirh in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
Right? So much anime from before Isekaipocalypse was heavily inspired by the exploration of philosophy and does a much more coherent and poignant job of it. It's kind of a head scratcher how Evangelion has stood the test of time while so many others fly mostly under the radar. I guess the others just didn't have enough big robots lol.
mirh t1_jb2jtw2 wrote
Mhh look, even the first line of the article is already wrong. Yes, the manga was released almost a full year before the anime, but that was just due to "production hitches". NGE was always first and foremost meant to be a TV series.
Also, honestly... Maybe 5% of the discussions I have ever heard is about robots, fighting and whatnot (the usual mecha stuff). Almost the entirety of the fandom is neckdeep into exactly these things.
As for the content itself: the characters are a parody of real human beings. Psychoanalysis is fraud. Anno said laughing that he never read Kierkegaard. And I guess a question about consciousness isn't half bad.. but the one quoted is a platitude, which I don't think the series really explores.
What else? Of course when the responsibilities you are running away from are literally "doomsday", there isn't exactly much of a choice. But in the real world, escaping to south america or siberia is usually a pretty effective way to dump all your problems. The other definition of freedom seems instead a botched attempt of explaining negative and positive liberty.
p.s. the great majority of animes can pass the bechdel test.. but even if a harem could challenge certain prudish stereotypes, I wouldn't exactly imply them to be progressive
ElliElephant OP t1_jb2jt6k wrote
Reply to comment by JakefromStatefarm24 in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
I can fully agree with all of that as long as it’s clearly noted that you’re using “proven” as a word in the context of language and not at all as a mathematical statement
Math proofs are either true or not true. There is no almost. I think that distinction is very significant
ElliElephant OP t1_jb2ifw2 wrote
Reply to comment by IIILORDGOLDIII in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
It isn’t though. There is no clear definition of an observation in quantum mechanics. That’s the only whole paradox of Schrödinger’s cat being both dead and alive. Is the observation when the instrument inside the box records the value, or does the observation occur when the box is opened and the value can be read? There’s no way to know
Amenra7 t1_jb2hw5l wrote
Reply to comment by ElliElephant in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
This post brought all the rationalists out. If you like this, check out Weick, Cillier, and Derrida.
[deleted] t1_jb2hsiz wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
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IIILORDGOLDIII t1_jb2hg3u wrote
Reply to comment by ElliElephant in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
The definition of observation in this case is clearly defined and different from how you would use it outside the context of quantum mechanics.
mirh t1_jb2gp2h wrote
Reply to comment by Mindestiny in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
I wished ghost in the shell had half the fame.
mirh t1_jb2gm8g wrote
Reply to comment by rookie_economist in Philosophy is everywhere in Neon Genesis Evangelion by linosan
I guess that's better than 3 generations of depressed kids who.. do other more ill-advised activities, though yes.
It's crazy how damn hard apophenia can stick.
ElliElephant OP t1_jb2r5fa wrote
Reply to comment by IIILORDGOLDIII in Wittgenstein’s Revenge (this genuinely changed the way I look at the world) by ElliElephant
🤷🏼‍♂️ That question goes above my pay grade