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MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqcg20 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Maybe going against istinct is an example of free will?
SovArya t1_itqcdmw wrote
Reply to comment by MaxTheAlmighty in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Yes, not doing bad is the way. Not doing is the exercise. As we did the thought experiment. It is not easy. It's hard. Haha
SovArya t1_itqc3l6 wrote
Reply to comment by MaxTheAlmighty in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
They act based on instinct/patterns. As we do too. Except upon exercising the don't.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqbw5k wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
This story creates a cool concept: we can't pretend to be good if we have never fought evil. And i also dislike the concept that being a good person means NOT doing bad, rather than doing good.
iiioiia t1_itqbpgz wrote
Reply to comment by TheBigCore in The philosophy of Martin Heidegger who argued that the Technological mindset has destroyed our relationship to the world so that Nature is seen as so many resources to exploit. He presents an alternative: a poetic relationship to the world by thelivingphilosophy
> It's certainly not happening in the USA.
I don't disagree - things do not happen, until they happen.
But, for certain things to happen, certain conditions must first exist, and this can be a lot harder to discern than the end product, in no small part because the necessary conditions cannot necessarily be known....even in materialistic science, which is relatively easy.
> Both parties are only interested in fighting each other rather than getting anything useful done.
This is an excellent meme, but how true is it?
> > > > Who knows about Europe....
I suspect the same as with the US: nobody (from a technical perspective).
SvenOdinsblade t1_itqbj07 wrote
Reply to comment by InJaaaammmmm in Peter Singer Is the Philosopher of the Status Quo by TuvixWasMurderedR1P
That never made me uncomfortable...the beastiality comments did.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqbi31 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Animals don't have the idea of good and bad, they act like if someone was forcing them to do that stuff.
SovArya t1_itqbg0i wrote
Reply to comment by MaxTheAlmighty in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
It's the common template of most stories.
Hero is at his place of origin. Evil comes and hardship happens. Hero has to leave home and overcome trials. From those trial, he applies what he learns to beat the evil; when evil is broken, he then can return home a changed man/woman.
Most stories are like that. Imagine star wars 4-6. Or lord of the rings 1-3. Pendragon. King Arthur. Most myths in one way have this formula.
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqb7xe wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
No, what Is "the hero's journey"?
glass_superman t1_itqb7tl wrote
Reply to comment by EdgyZigzagoon in Peter Singer Is the Philosopher of the Status Quo by TuvixWasMurderedR1P
>, further highlighting the need for increasing investment in global economic development. Development of strong market economies is the single biggest predictor of reducing poverty in a nation.
That's true in the neoliberal order but why must we have the neoliberal order?
Isn't that the point of this article? To search for solutions to poverty beyond the neoliberal order and not within it? Because within it we are claim success at having only 80% of the world earning less than $1000/day or whatever. That doesn't sound very successful to me at all!
SovArya t1_itqb1v4 wrote
Reply to comment by MaxTheAlmighty in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
You're not wrong. There has been similarities in the stories. It's like there is a template and has been spread and based on the current readers; they make it their own.
As we are able to think critically, comes progress. Exercise of imagination and the like. And the base format of that is in the stories.
Familiar with the heroes journey?
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itqagng wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I think that the idea of God living on the clouds can be used in art and it's also a cool artistical concept, but that we shouldnt believe that Heaven Is like that: the idea of gods living in the sky comes from the olympian greek mythology, if i am not wrong.
Meta_Digital t1_itqabi7 wrote
Reply to comment by yang_gang2020 in The philosophy of Martin Heidegger who argued that the Technological mindset has destroyed our relationship to the world so that Nature is seen as so many resources to exploit. He presents an alternative: a poetic relationship to the world by thelivingphilosophy
Okay I'll bite. What's the Nazi critique of capitalism?
SovArya t1_itqa6wc wrote
Reply to comment by MaxTheAlmighty in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
Some interpret God to be like man. I think this to be wrong.
If God is that which nothing is greater then; such being I can't understand. I can only appreciate what I see and feel and express the free will.
Also believing in that definition; I fear such a being. Simply because said being can do what It will; and I have no say.
A simple example would be, if I am to dumb it down to something I can understand. If an author writes a story, does the written characters have a say?
As for the Bible or holy texts, whether they are factual, I honestly love them for the idea of accountability.
Because of my belief that nothing is 100% certain or knowable; I can't say its not written by people influenced by such a power.
The idea of hope - to be saved; the nearest thing I hold unto this is a saying by Marcus Aurelius and that is - this too shall pass.
If I am to liken myself to characters in the Bible, I honestly feel that - we should be in awe, frightened if such a being exists, and exercise that free will and enjoy the time we are here.
Smallpaul t1_itqa3un wrote
Reply to comment by glass_superman in Peter Singer Is the Philosopher of the Status Quo by TuvixWasMurderedR1P
> No one explicitly has the aim to impoverish people ....
Yeah that’s what I said before you contradicted me and then contradicted yourself.
> ... but we set up systems to allow us to do it while obfuscating the guilty.
Sometimes the guilty are pre-obfuscated. When America set up its highway system rather than a decent train system, nobody knew they were contributing the flooding of Tuvalu. The world is hella complex and only a tiny minority of problems are caused by identifiable “bad guys” and a much smaller minority of those “bad guys” are capitalist CEOs, as opposed to warlords, authoritarians and others who get power outside of democracy or capital markets.
> And when we fail to obfuscate the guilt, we give charity! Charity was invented to relieve us of our guilt.
No. Charity was invented to help people.
But yes it does also assuage guilt. Another way to assuage guilt is to say that charity does nothing. Then you can do nothing and feel justified.
TheBigCore t1_itqa37y wrote
Reply to comment by iiioiia in The philosophy of Martin Heidegger who argued that the Technological mindset has destroyed our relationship to the world so that Nature is seen as so many resources to exploit. He presents an alternative: a poetic relationship to the world by thelivingphilosophy
It's certainly not happening in the USA. Both parties are only interested in fighting each other rather than getting anything useful done.
Who knows about Europe....
InJaaaammmmm t1_itqa2pm wrote
Reply to comment by icarusrising9 in Peter Singer Is the Philosopher of the Status Quo by TuvixWasMurderedR1P
Singer makes people uncomfortable because he puts his money where his mouth is. It's easy to sit around arguing/writing books about dismantling the system, whilst you have some cushy job at a University.
MSGRiley t1_itq9y5e wrote
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EdgyZigzagoon t1_itq9xc6 wrote
Reply to comment by glass_superman in Peter Singer Is the Philosopher of the Status Quo by TuvixWasMurderedR1P
I agree with you in principle, but it’s also a massive success that the number of people with even less than that has fallen so dramatically. And obviously, $3/day means different things in different places. Ultimately, the number of people starving, the number of people who are absolutely destitute, and rates of child mortality have all dropped sharply, and that should be celebrated and the work should be continued.
I think it makes the most sense to contextualize poverty in terms of the quality of life and security that comes with alleviating it, which is what organizations who study it attempt to do far better than either of us ever could, which is why they deserve huge amounts of funding and support.
We probably agree on 80% of things at the end of the day, I just like to encourage people to be a little more optimistic because we have done great things and if we continue to work hard we can continue to make the world a better place. I have to go actually do my job now lmao, peace out.
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iiioiia t1_itq9ajd wrote
Reply to comment by TheBigCore in The philosophy of Martin Heidegger who argued that the Technological mindset has destroyed our relationship to the world so that Nature is seen as so many resources to exploit. He presents an alternative: a poetic relationship to the world by thelivingphilosophy
Similar claims have been made about things like heavier than air flying machines, racism, etc.
SecretHeat t1_itq989t wrote
Reply to comment by FeDeWould-be in The philosophy of Martin Heidegger who argued that the Technological mindset has destroyed our relationship to the world so that Nature is seen as so many resources to exploit. He presents an alternative: a poetic relationship to the world by thelivingphilosophy
I think you could say it emerged historically with capitalism but wouldn’t necessarily disappear with the disappearance of capitalism.
glass_superman t1_itq95zk wrote
Reply to comment by EdgyZigzagoon in Peter Singer Is the Philosopher of the Status Quo by TuvixWasMurderedR1P
(Oops, it's still very early in my time zone. My bad!)
I still wonder if the people who had the wrong impression of the number of people in poverty also had the wrong definition of poverty. We should use measures more universal, like, "How many people per years will experience hunger as pain?" Saying that someone earning $3/day isn't in poverty doesn't speak to me at all!
MaxTheAlmighty t1_itq8zv1 wrote
Reply to comment by SovArya in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | October 24, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
I don't think that knowing the future denies the will of humans. I think that God knows the future, but doesn't want to manipulate people and so he allows humans to be free. Even though he knows what Is going to happen, he writes human characters to be free. So, if God wrote a book in which humans are included, he would have wrote, in simple terms: "And so this day X person was born. Leaves empty space in which X can write"
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