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Even-Philosopher-998 t1_jdx6wr9 wrote
Reply to comment by musescore1983 in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | March 13, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
Thank You
BowelMan t1_jdx6mb6 wrote
Reply to comment by maniacleruler in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
What if I'm lonely and don't have anybody?
quiettown999 t1_jdx5w0j wrote
Reply to comment by GrandStudio in Why There Is No Absolute Ground For Truth: A Review of Criticisms Against Strong Foundationalism by throwaway853994
I love this comment!
Human perception is the limiting factor for defining truth.
No reason we can't explore the 'yet-to-be-known', assume it's identity, or make explorations on that assumption.
In the end, the discussion about truth will still be limited by the parties having the discussion, and what they agree upon as 'reality' or 'truth'.
xNonPartisaNx t1_jdx5ust wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Tat tvam asi
What do you mean "other people"?
thx1138inator t1_jdx4ysu wrote
Reply to comment by mbfunke in Vivek Venkataraman argues that political equality and proto-democracy were the most common form of political organisation in the "state of nature". These ideals preceded modern liberalism & statehood, and are arguably how humans have lived the majority of our evolution. by Ma3Ke4Li3
My thoughts are that we should be shifting political power into smaller groups. So, currently in the USA, there is significant power concentrated at the federal level. But, why should health care administration, for example, happen at the federal level rather than the state level? Human health concerns are really quite local (pandemics being an exception). Why not administer most health delivery/payment purely at the state level? The USA would get more diversity and innovation that way. We should really reconsider allowing concentration of so many decisions in the hands of so few people.
Counter point- we benefit from efficiency of scale. But man, when things go wrong at scale, they really go wrong!
mcarterphoto t1_jdx4tx5 wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
This relates a lot to thoughts I have about grief. Most people "read" others and have an idea of how to react - you can use the F-word with this guy, better not with this woman; as we know people better, some become close friends, but almost everyone we deal with, before long we have a "version" of us that's just for them. With some people, this version becomes very "rich", with shared memories and an intuitive, 2nd-nature way of interacting. I don't think these are necessarily "false" version of us, it's how we connect with others and form deeper bonds.
When we lose someone to death or even through events that de-attach us (like a romantic breakup), we lose the version of ourselves that was the version they interacted with. I feel that we don't acknowledge this loss - it's bad enough to realize someone we love is gone from our lives, but also a part of our selves no longer has a place, and lives only in our memories.
But I ain't got no college, I could be off here!
shifterphights t1_jdx4quq wrote
Reply to comment by jacksraging_bileduct in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
That’s why you know them.
ProudKingbooker t1_jdx37dk wrote
Reply to comment by maniacleruler in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Exactly.
The people we love change us. When they leave, they don't really leave as the live within us through the actions and quirks that we pick up from them.
I think it's a beautiful thing and something to be embraced. I hope everything goes well for you.
I'm sending hugs your way!
mbfunke t1_jdx30wz wrote
Reply to comment by thx1138inator in Vivek Venkataraman argues that political equality and proto-democracy were the most common form of political organisation in the "state of nature". These ideals preceded modern liberalism & statehood, and are arguably how humans have lived the majority of our evolution. by Ma3Ke4Li3
It’s kind of unavoidable with the current population. We just have to find institutions that more closely approximate our inherited dispositions while conscientiously engaging in self-creation to match our new environment. I say “just” because it’s conceptually a straightforward problem, the actual implementation is huge lift.
maniacleruler t1_jdx2djq wrote
Reply to comment by ProudKingbooker in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Someone who I can say I loved unconditionally passed away. Lately I feel them in my every expression. Maybe it’s my subconscious mind doing it intentionally but it does bring me some sort of comfort.
bigcatfood t1_jdx23f8 wrote
Xavion251 t1_jdwzbfd wrote
Reply to comment by EatThisShoe in Scientism Schmientism! Why There Are No Other Ways of Knowing Apart from Science (Broadly Construed) by CartesianClosedCat
I would say "setting out with the intent to create a hypothesis and test it (in some way) to determine the truth".
Xavion251 t1_jdwz0ky wrote
Reply to comment by WrongAspects in Scientism Schmientism! Why There Are No Other Ways of Knowing Apart from Science (Broadly Construed) by CartesianClosedCat
Prior arguments and experience. Like people have done for all history.
Nearby-Implement-870 t1_jdwyt2l wrote
Reply to comment by lluluna in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
You have restated that it is a paradox without explaining the contradiction. Uniqueness is a comparative measure, of course it can't be established without comparison.
BIGR3D t1_jdwynuu wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Perhaps its either OR. Perhaps neither. Perhaps unknown. Just because you only offer two choices, doesnt mean we have to choose either of them.
shattersquad710 t1_jdwy74y wrote
JustAPerspective t1_jdwy2bv wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Check of Theory: Those who care not what others think about them would value that input less.
Instead of fixating about how others perceive one, focus instead on what one does that affects others... & the perception should handle itself.
snowylion t1_jdwwlw0 wrote
Reply to Vivek Venkataraman argues that political equality and proto-democracy were the most common form of political organisation in the "state of nature". These ideals preceded modern liberalism & statehood, and are arguably how humans have lived the majority of our evolution. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Isn't this kinda painfully obvious to anyone who ever visited a village?
ProudKingbooker t1_jdwvj9n wrote
Reply to comment by maniacleruler in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
And that is really the best way of seeing it.
We're like canvasses and the people in our lives come in and paint on us, make us who we are.
Some people paint over each other and others are obscured under this paint. But they stay there, under all the layers, making us who we are, even if it's under the surface.
Others are the primary colors, such as family and other loved ones.
Puzzlehead-Engineer t1_jdwvcuc wrote
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DDWingert t1_jdwso0b wrote
Reply to comment by ASpiralKnight in Examining what makes a life worth living according to the ancient philosophers by ADefiniteDescription
After re-reading this, I get it. Thanks. :)
Ok_Meat_8322 t1_jdwsl8s wrote
Reply to comment by Rowan-Trees in Scientism Schmientism! Why There Are No Other Ways of Knowing Apart from Science (Broadly Construed) by CartesianClosedCat
>The truth-statement that all truths can be empirically verified is itself empirically unverifiable.
To be fair, if this is stipulated as a definition rather than a truth-claim, then this issue disappears. This was the problem with the "yeah but can verificationism be verified?" objection to Ayer and the positivists: it only works if verificationism is taken as a proposition rather than a definition or criterion of meaning (which is precisely how it was posited, at least by Ayer).
But ironically enough, I think verificationism and this claim about truth fail empirically; it is a demonstrable matter of empirical fact concerning human linguistic practice that we use language to do things other than assert empirical truths, and there are truths and types of knowledge that are meaningful but cannot be empirically verified (truths about the self obtained via introspection, for instance, all truths that are generalizations, poetic/literary truth, etc).
thx1138inator t1_jdws0os wrote
Reply to comment by mbfunke in Vivek Venkataraman argues that political equality and proto-democracy were the most common form of political organisation in the "state of nature". These ideals preceded modern liberalism & statehood, and are arguably how humans have lived the majority of our evolution. by Ma3Ke4Li3
Exactly - What if the scale of our organizations is the root of the problem with modern humanity? The smaller the scale, the smaller the problems.
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Reply to comment by BIGR3D in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
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