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EatThisShoe t1_jdxgzzj wrote

Ok, I think that's a pretty reasonable definition. Working with that definition we could claim, for example, that logical deduction is not science because it doesn't actually test the conclusion as a hypothesis.

Tying this back into the original question, I would say that I would question whether logical deduction without testing against reality actually produces knowledge. A logical conclusion is true only if the premises are true, if we later tested that conclusion against reality we might find that it is false.

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McDoof t1_jdxb148 wrote

I see it as less of a paradox and more as a counterintuitive claim. I first encountered a similar idea myself through discussions of "memory." In cultural anthropology (cf. Halbwachs, Assmann) some thinkers claim that (cultural) memory is social and cannot exist in an isolated individual.

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Sansa_Culotte_ t1_jdx9x41 wrote

> Surrounded by so many other entities that do look and sound similar to myself, my quest for individuality - should I choose to accept it - is going to necessarily involve asserting ways in which I am not like them. It's more difficult, and requires more digging (or more bullshitting, more likely,) but is it different in kind? It's just easier to point at a rock and say, "Welp, I'm not like that. I've got my own thing going on."

This sounds pretty similar to Hegel's Phenomenology of the Mind - recognition as an individual only becomes necessary once we encounter other individuals; one impetus in this encounter is to reduce the Other to an object so that we remain unique in our individuality, but such individuality lacks the component of recognition, and so the Other becomes inherently linked to our own desire to be recognized as an individual of our own (as such recognition can only come from another individual).

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snocown t1_jdx8fcj wrote

That's only if you're lucky and take a path of this world. If you're a fuck up like me and break it all down you become your own person at the loss of everything within this construct. But since you're now an open book, you can do whatever you want if you put your mind to it, that's because reality is signals being sent to the brain.

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fencerman t1_jdx7qwo wrote

No, that isn't the reality of things at all. That's just factually wrong - and historically wrong since we know lots of early hominids took extensive care of disabled members of their communities.

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