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bumharmony t1_iv5d4ae wrote

Reply to "A socialist society has no room for parties or trade unions. [...] The struggle is for the simultaneous abolition of both market and production relations, [...]for the abolition of the differences in the working class brought about by the capitalist division of labor." by Maxwellsdemon17

Sure. People compete, but who makes the rules of that competition. And don’t give me the all american bullshit answer that it is the markets, duh!

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TheManInTheShack t1_iv56148 wrote

Reply to comment by Chazmer87 in "A socialist society has no room for parties or trade unions. [...] The struggle is for the simultaneous abolition of both market and production relations, [...]for the abolition of the differences in the working class brought about by the capitalist division of labor." by Maxwellsdemon17

Correct. We both compete and cooperate. Generally speaking we cooperate with those whose goals are aligned with and support our own while competing with those whose goals work against our own.

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FeelsCoolMan1 t1_iv55o7o wrote

Reply to comment by YoushaTheRose in The False Promise of Stoicism by DirtyOldPanties

Isn’t the whole point of stoicism how it’s relevant in modern and ancient society? Also you say this as though people are born as scientists and will always become them, albert einstein could have easily not been a scientist if he was a stoic at those lectures not question the things deemed ad obvious set truths and instead living in accordance to them

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Chazmer87 t1_iv55i4g wrote

Reply to comment by TheManInTheShack in "A socialist society has no room for parties or trade unions. [...] The struggle is for the simultaneous abolition of both market and production relations, [...]for the abolition of the differences in the working class brought about by the capitalist division of labor." by Maxwellsdemon17

>Competition is a built-in feature of life. All forms of life compete for resources.

Flip side, cooperation is what made complex life possible at all. When archaebacteria and eubacteria merged to become the first eukaryotes we got all complex life.

Without cooperstion the entire planet would still be filled with single cell organisms.

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GDue t1_iv54kpg wrote

Reply to Herzog and Žižek become uncanny AI bots trapped in endless conversation by geoxol

> I think you're right. But I have a similar fantasy, which I've never spoken about. If someone would lock me in a room, and there were a revolver in there and five naked women, who were completely shameless; if he would then leave and close the door and I would know that he would come back in one hour—I don't know what would happen to me. I don't know if I could resist this temptation or not. The revolver is right there and five naked women. I don't know what would happen to me. Yes, I think so. I don't know, though.

Zizek, pls

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TheManInTheShack t1_iv525k2 wrote

Reply to "A socialist society has no room for parties or trade unions. [...] The struggle is for the simultaneous abolition of both market and production relations, [...]for the abolition of the differences in the working class brought about by the capitalist division of labor." by Maxwellsdemon17

This reads like so many academic papers do: as if they were written by people who have never actually experienced the thing about which they are claiming to be an expert.

Competition is a built-in feature of life. All forms of life compete for resources. Until mankind reaches the point where the desired resources are effectively unlimited, there will always be competition. Capitalism is simply the most basic economic form of that competition.

That we compete with each other for resources may sometimes feel incompatible with a stable society but clearly it’s not. Society in general is stable enough and when it’s not, it’s rarely due to the competition for resources. Instability is nearly always politically-driven by those seeking power or trying to hold on to it. Making society more stable require political reform.

Competition is a basic component of life. That’s not going to change for the foreseeable future.

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Downside_Up_ t1_iv51wnf wrote

Reply to comment by septicdank in Herzog and Žižek become uncanny AI bots trapped in endless conversation by geoxol

> When the dinosaurs were dying out, some of them grew so large that they were no longer able to move. They were lying on their backs with immobile limbs, buried in swampy marshes they could no longer eat, they were dying of starvation. But then one day a lizard came along. It was only a few centimeters long. This lizard was thinking, “These dinosaurs are too big—they are not able to move anymore. We'll eat them!” Since that time the survival of lizards has depended on eating dinosaurs. The only ones who could actually do something against these dinosaurs were lizards.

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cloud_t t1_iv50hjm wrote

Reply to Herzog and Žižek become uncanny AI bots trapped in endless conversation by geoxol

Well, I happened to log in when they were talking about internet porn and eroticism, and it was actually a very productive discussion, with cohesive references to movies such as Red Dust and Shame. The topic was about how detached and abstracted one was from society when these practices were undertaken. It really felt like "they" were doing a nice introspection and that logic was part of the equation. Great AIs.

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JustOkCryptographer t1_iv4yqey wrote

Reply to comment by srnx in Herzog and Žižek become uncanny AI bots trapped in endless conversation by geoxol

I just visited the link and listened for a bit and everything Herzog said was true biographical information about his life. So, I'm not sure where the AI comes into play, but it basically sounded like stitched together interview recordings. Not familiar enough with Zizeck to say one way or another for his side of the convo.

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