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ronnyhugo t1_iwvfuu3 wrote
Reply to comment by Fancy_Put5353 in The Solution of Evil by baileyjn8
>Like I said
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>Aren’t we formed through mostly atoms.
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>Without them we wouldn’t exist.
And neither would evil...
So like I said.
If god made a universe with no life in it.
There would be no evil there.
THAT God would be good.
That's what I said in the first comment. Its completely pointless to talk about a "Good God" when clearly, evil CAN exist in the universe he allegedly made.
InTheEndEntropyWins t1_iwvff9e wrote
Reply to comment by MyPhillyAccent in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
I do worry about philosophy in general when it accepts people like Kastrup as a proper philosopher.
I struggle to understand how any intelligent person takes him seriously.
>Bernardo Kastrup is the executive director of Essentia Foundation. His work has been leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism
clairelecric t1_iwveqgx wrote
Reply to comment by coyote-1 in Social media makes us feel terrible about who we really are. Neuroscience and philosopher Guy Debord can explain why – and empower us to fight back by ADefiniteDescription
I agree. In which the whole point of the medium is also entirely different, and you get the support and relating irl. I have to say that reddit can be extraordinarily cruel and rude as well though. A bit like Twitter. The more anonymous people can be, the more uninhibited they are, which also means unthinking vileness unfortunately.
Trumpswells t1_iwvcgn3 wrote
Reply to comment by medraxus in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
I agree there’s a broader philosophical question: Is humankind capable of responding to an imminent threat, when the constituents of said threat have been wedded to quality of life and well being?
sociocat101 t1_iwvc8cf wrote
Reply to comment by andreaskrueger in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
Democracy isn't to blame. There are other countries that are not democratic that haven't solved climate change either, your argument is incoherent.
BigNorseWolf t1_iwvbga7 wrote
Reply to For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
no
No, its already too late. If we do it will be from a technological solution, social solutions have already failed.
Democracy is only synonymous with good if people are good. We're not. Two wolves and a sheep deciding on dinner is a democratic decision.
Yes, through SCIENCE> Philosophy is irrelevant.
No. It is not. We are walking around with the genetic baggage of 200,000 years of evolution. That will not change quickly enough
Philosophy doesn't do credibly very well. It finds everything insufficient.
Mind control
Well.
It won't.
I don't know but I know the philosophers won't figure it out
If you don't know by now you're not going to.
BigNorseWolf t1_iwvahdg wrote
Reply to comment by andreaskrueger in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
The US has never been a functioning democracy. In execution it's an oligarchy, as the founders intended.
chiefmors t1_iwvaep6 wrote
Reply to Social media makes us feel terrible about who we really are. Neuroscience and philosopher Guy Debord can explain why – and empower us to fight back by ADefiniteDescription
I think it's very obvious what social media is good for (casual communication) and what it sucks at (explaining and providing meaning for life).
As always, having confidence, discipline, and self worth to be independently capable of happiness and moral goodness matters.
ValyrianJedi t1_iwva1h5 wrote
Reply to comment by andreaskrueger in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
The entire purpose of democracy is to put the power in the hands of the people though. The people not choosing to address something that you want to be addressed doesn't mean that democracy isn't functioning
Fancy_Put5353 t1_iwv8yp5 wrote
Reply to comment by ronnyhugo in The Solution of Evil by baileyjn8
Like I said
Aren’t we formed through mostly atoms.
Without them we wouldn’t exist.
Evil will always exist in our case it the manifestation of growth. While others may be different. Evil can be described as different thing just as each culture may have its own evil.
Without atoms, most things wouldn’t exist aspect energy.
Then evil will have a nuance meaning
how would we be able to do action.
andreaskrueger t1_iwv629i wrote
Reply to comment by Yetanotherone4 in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
I don't think, creative accounting will set you free.
The basis is physics. Measure the share of responsibility by counting the fraction of molecules of anthropogenic CO2 that are causing the mass death.
And atmospheric CO2 is long lived. Plus, past emissions have already deteriorated the capacity of absorption of the natural system (e.g. acidic oceans will capture less and less additional CO2 emissions), so earlier emissions have even compounding effects.
Newtothiz t1_iwv5ng1 wrote
Reply to comment by Yetanotherone4 in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
People who talk about "source" in the case of arguments haven't read a philosophy book in their life. Prove me wrong.
andreaskrueger t1_iwv5jme wrote
Reply to comment by ValyrianJedi in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
You are caught up in a logical loop.
Yes, a vast number of people has no clue nor do they care (or are manipulated). And by the construction of democracy itself (e.g. majority voting) that has then been leading to this type of governance "not functioning properly"; the biggest problems stayed unsolved. Ergo most likely outcome is apocalyptic.
Yetanotherone4 t1_iwv4wv5 wrote
Reply to comment by Newtothiz in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
Waiting on sauce, and also not sure why philosophers would be considered knowledgeable on this subject.
coyote-1 t1_iwv4sxz wrote
Reply to comment by 22OregonJB in Social media makes us feel terrible about who we really are. Neuroscience and philosopher Guy Debord can explain why – and empower us to fight back by ADefiniteDescription
The other half of that equation is that folks don’t want to look at (that is, share with you) your problems. So you get little to no attention if you post your real life, and any attention you get from that is negative or cloying.
I vastly prefer the reddit model. Anon posting, I can share my thoughts without sharing my life. And I can learn the stuff I need or observe the stuff that entertains me, instead of having to fit in with the herd.
Yetanotherone4 t1_iwv4czs wrote
Reply to comment by cattywompapotamus in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
> Climate change is a dilemma rooted in the petrochemical energy system that has powered modern civilization for 300 years, regardless of governance.
Bingo.
Yetanotherone4 t1_iwv41ch wrote
Reply to comment by andreaskrueger in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
> China's cumulative responsibility per capita
oh, screw off with that. It's the absolute contribution that matters, and output / manufacturing output if you want to compare countries.
Yetanotherone4 t1_iwv39va wrote
Reply to For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
A lot of those don't seem like philosophical questions.
shaim2 t1_iwv2up6 wrote
Reply to For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
Every question is going to be swept away by the issues surrounding AGI (Artificial General Intelligence).
Passing the Turing Test seems like an achievable millstone for the 2030s.
What does it mean if a computer can, for all intents and purposes, appear to be as intelligent as a very smart and highly educated human?
Not just what does that mean regarding consciousness. What does it mean regarding Rights, our role in the universe, etc.
This issue is imminent and HUGE.
22OregonJB t1_iwv1xot wrote
Reply to Social media makes us feel terrible about who we really are. Neuroscience and philosopher Guy Debord can explain why – and empower us to fight back by ADefiniteDescription
I am not really sure we needed neuroscientists and philosophers to understand that by comparing anything in your life to the edited personas of someone else’s life that is carefully crafted to look as good as possible for their “followers/friends” is not good for us.
Their lives are just as screwed up as the rest of us they are just better at hiding it. -David Goggins.
Newtothiz t1_iwv0sr2 wrote
Reply to comment by mementoTeHominemEsse in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
From the perspective of the common sense you're not wrong, but on a theoretical plane not only is the appeal to authority not an argument, but also philosophers themselves never just give opinion but arguments which are supposed to mentain their power indifferent of the domain they are used in. And also in general most theoretical physicists make appeal to philosophy, for the simple fact that to have a yet proven theory means to go beyond the subjective evidence you can empirically prove and to generalise, aka. do metaphysics. Actually everytime you go beyond pure experience by making a universal claim like "Dogs like this" ; "Women are like this", you are making a universal and so metaphysical claim. There is no escape metaphysics and so there is no escape philosophy. Hope this helps since it's my last reply.
Edit* Also I don't want to discredit anyone's knowledge but everyone who trully wants to understand the basic problems of modern science should read Hume.
ronnyhugo t1_iwv0qg7 wrote
Reply to comment by Fancy_Put5353 in The Solution of Evil by baileyjn8
You need atoms to have ambition.....
This whole conversation has certainly given me hardship, because nothing you say is consistent.
First you say evil can exist without atoms but then you say evil is created by an organism.
And the words "example particles" doesn't even make a complete sentence. I can't read your mind! What does that mean!?
mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iwv0al0 wrote
Reply to comment by Lammetje98 in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
IQ tests test the essence of most mental abilities though. Given people grew up in roughly similar environments, IQ is very valid as a measure of intelligence.
mementoTeHominemEsse t1_iwv01a3 wrote
Reply to comment by creditnewb123 in For world philosophy day 13 thinkers share the philosophical questions that will define this century | Including Noam Chomsky on destruction, Naomi Oreskes on climate crisis and Carissa Veliz on innovation by IAI_Admin
No matter your precise definition of intelligence, I assume you, and anyone for that matter, defines it as an array of mental abilities. What mental abilities exactly you think form intelligence isn't that relevant, because IQ tests test the essence of pretty much all mental abilities.
coyote-1 t1_iwvghwy wrote
Reply to comment by clairelecric in Social media makes us feel terrible about who we really are. Neuroscience and philosopher Guy Debord can explain why – and empower us to fight back by ADefiniteDescription
Yeah that’s a hazard as there are no consequences. It’s unfortunate. Just remember that any such instances say everything about those making vile posts, and virtually nothing about the intended targets of those posts.