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Iaskquesti0ns OP t1_iycn7b2 wrote

When I counsel people (I'm a psychologist), particularly the more self-reflecting ones who have anxiety and depression, their philosophical approach to life and figuring out meaning in events take precedence over finding the right stimulation that evokes pleasure.

For some people, taking a hard deterministic POV or a hard free-will-focused POV changes how they interpret their lives. Working with them to figure out their interpretations generally shows them a path where they find meaning and offers them closure. Once they have a sufficiently acceptable answer to many forms of "but why did this happen?" their motivation moves toward something that excites them. Just my 2 cents. I hope you do find meaning.

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cmciccio t1_iycmegn wrote

Because it's one of the core experiences of major depression. When I was depressed I didn't feel pleasure and thus didn't even seek it out. I didn't feel happiness or sadness and I didn't cry. There was an all-consuming black void that went on perpetually for a very long time outside of the flow of good days and bad days.

I'm not claiming that's not the case with you but an important distinction needs to be made when defining depression. Otherwise, any definition or diagnosis becomes a cage that actually prevents feeling better.

Struggling to find meaning is simply an aspect of life that we all need to find our way through. The meaningless we often confront in human existence and the meaningless of depression are on very different levels.

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c0rd1s t1_iycf7j9 wrote

I guess it’s difficult for me to see how this belief is justified if it doesn’t follow from his previous belief that Jones would win the job. In other words, if we accept that these two beliefs are linked, the chain breaks on the first belief that is not true, and it’s irrelevant whether later links yield a true result.

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Capital_Net_6438 t1_iycdta1 wrote

Seems like your response to the 10 coins example is to reject the hypo. Surely it is possible for Smith to have the belief that whoever will get job has 10 coins in his pocket. As it is also possible for him to believe Jones will be the job winner with 10 coins. The former belief - about whoever - is justified, true, but not known. And thus a counter example to JTB.

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Iaskquesti0ns OP t1_iycapyc wrote

I believe those can be a source of eudaimonia and richness both, but there would be people for whom staying indoors reading and following a strict routine (no variety) is meaningful. Many find structure and familiarity enough.

If you look at it from a physics point of view where chaos = variety, chaos carries the least meaning.

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musicalbasics t1_iyc727s wrote

Psychological richness and eudaimonia (meaning) are the same thing.

>Psychological richness often comes from meeting new people, taking trips, going on adventures, traveling, moving cities, and extreme events that change your lifestyle.

Meeting new people & forming connections, traveling to new locations, and going on adventures are the very definition of meaningful activities.

These psychologists love creating new categories but there are only two categories, meaning and value.

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Skyreaper71 t1_iyc4ecp wrote

As a survival-happy species, our successes are calculated in the number of years we have extended our lives, with the reduction of suffering being only incidental to this aim. To stay alive under almost any circumstances is a sickness with us. Nothing could be more unhealthy than to “watch one’s health” as a means of stalling death. The lengths we will go as procrastinators of that last gasp only demonstrate a morbid dread of that event. By contrast, our fear of suffering is deficient.

Thomas Ligotti, The Conspiracy Against the Human Race

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GreatBigBagOfNope t1_iyc3laj wrote

Perhaps suggesting that a lifestyle of doing nothing but waking up in your cookie cutter suburban house, driving 90 minutes to the same workplace, spending 9 hours there doing the same thing, driving 90 minutes home, and watching the same television programming for 50 years isn't part of the recipe for a good life?

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