We know how to examine the brain to some extent and we have improved on that significantly, we also know that all who we are is contained within our bodies.

We require no metaphysical concept to understand that. My argument is simple here. We are fundamentally real within our context of understanding. We do not require claims that suspend the reality to explain anything about ourselves.

My thinking is that we have no demonstrated need for anything beyond our experiences within our reality to explain these concepts.

Has anyone tried using ChatGPT for answering your questions about terms/meanings in philosophical works? It seems to be fairly accurate

Yes I do think you can still run CLDs as a model--but they're much more chaotic. They would typically be modeled using differential equations, which can be really sensitive to a slight change in conditions. E.g. even a tiny miscalculation for the weight of one edge might cause the system to enter into a totally different equilibrium.

Perhaps an obstacle, according to the definition, can be to materialize something or create something as a challange to oneself? Sure, a log is a physical obstacle, but it is only a obstacle if you make it a goal to jump over it ”i want to jump over the log, it is not necessary, can i do it?”. In the same way one could ask ”i want to create a castle in Minecraft, it is not necessary, can I do it”? Jumping and building are both performances. This is just a guess though.

It's simple, games are becoming simulations of reality, creating a simulation of reality accurately requires you to start to understand the reasons and functions of things.

Already in your first paragraph you make a strsnge point. Varistions in sensations don't somehow support subjectigity doesn't have anything to do with consciousness. The same goes for a lot of other examples.

Weirdly, you mention outliers when there is worldeide consensus on a massive majority of experiences...i.e. sugsr being sweet... mint tasting "cold"... variation in subjectivity doesnt detach it from consciousness.

Finally.. phenomenal consciousness or subjective experience is simply a huge part of what consciousnes is. I don't even know how to begin understanding what you are trying to argue by mentioning variations in experience to then ask whether it has anything to do with with conscious experience.

Write your own posts arguing that and get feedback. But in all the literature this is one of the main conundrums Koch et all with integrated information theory tried to quantify it to mention an example. Unity, awareness and experience.

Yes, it wouldn't. There's the rub and the basis for my post and issue in our universe. And in your reply "conveying what they are like" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. If someone never had the sense of taste, you can ralk to them till your blue in the face, but they wouldn't know what it's like. And that's the way you know what it even is. To experience it.

So in total what-its-likeness cannot be inferred in principle from any description from the universe. If it can, I'd love to hear how.

This reminds me of Nietzsche's posit, contra Darwin, that life is not about survival and reproduction, but about a will to power. Life is about demonstrating mastery over competitors, joyous expression of power, owning space, etc.

That is the question...what would a life look like that rejected all games?

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Excellent point. Mark Solms, author of Hidden Spring, makes a similar claim for play, particularly in the formative years.

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>I think it would.

If you were the observer you would, but if you had a nervous system incapable of pain you wouldn't understand what pain felt like. That doesn't mean there is anything verbal to know about pain though, it just means that knowing what pain feels like requires having a nervous system capable of experiencing it.

I’m glad reading Nietzsche has helped you feel less anxious. I feel you - Nietzsche’s comments on suffering are great in my opinion. The general concept of learning from suffering, embracing it, is a powerful one for me. His concept of ressentiment—how resenting and fighting against certain things actually can make them stronger in our own minds by binding us to them—very powerful and mentally useful as well. As you can see, I take issue with his rejection of any metaphysical organizing principles, though.

I also think, among many philosophers, Nietzsche is a great writer, especially compared to, say, Heidegger. However, be careful with trying to rationalize inconsistencies in Nietzsche’s writing. I once heard someone (I think it may have been Bertrand Russell in a recorded lecture) describe Nietzsche as a literary philosopher, in that he writes more like a storyteller than a classic, dry, pure deductive logic philosopher. This does make his work significantly more palatable, and it allows him to write more stream of thought type work (which I enjoy), but it also left him free to talk in ways that appear to contradict his own propositions. I would recommend enjoying his work, taking what you like and leaving the rest.

For example, I make the Buddhism reference because I find Buddhism helps me with suffering in many the same ways Nietzsche does. But I find the Buddhist concept of the Dharma very helpful - it helps me see compassion as inherently valuable, even if we don’t get direct material rewards for being compassionate. And I think Nietzsche would view the Dharma as too much like a “God” system to accept it.

May you feel peace, may you feel love, may you be free of suffering, my friend

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>Neural activity doesn't inform the observer that it feels like anything at all.

Why would it? Language only conveys what speakers can understand. If a neurosurgeon was colorblind, they could still understand how color vision works without knowing how colors look in the first person, but that doesn't mean there should be a way to convey what those experiences are like even to certain speakers who can't experience them. Having a certain kind of nervous system is a necessary condition for apprehending certain experiences.

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Makes me think of the glass bead game. Hesse turned all human inquiry and thought into abstract enough terms one could spend their whole life fucking around with the game and feel accomplishment. Plus the ritual of it - maybe ritual is also important? Community, gathering, etc? Idfk